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  •  Census Bureau (0+ / 0-)

    Just Google "US Population Growth"

    "Accordingly, the United States Census Bureau shows an increase of 0.95% between November 2007 and November 2008 for the resident population."

    •  Well that is 3 million extra people each year, (0+ / 0-)

      and with compounding so I guess that is pretty high.

      Also where do you get the idea that the USA is not heavily populated?  

      •  That's a little trickier (0+ / 0-)

        But try this as an exercise:

        Look up the populations for countries like, oh, Japan, India, and China, and then the U.S.

        Next, look up the land area for each of those countries.

        Divide one number into the other to get a population density, people per square mile, for each nation.

        Voila!

        If you're lucky, there's a site out there that does the math for you!

        •  Also, the food surplus. (1+ / 0-)
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          I'd argue any country that exports food hasn't reach it's maximum usable population. We seem to have the food to waste converting it into ethanol, too.

          ...beef to, really.  We could feed a lot more people if all our crops went to human consumption rather than livestock feed.

          •  How far should we go? (0+ / 0-)

            What is maximum usable population? Is that something we should strive for? Do I have to give up a good cheesburger once a month in order that we don't have to address overpopulation? I understand that I have to give up having a green lawn. I have to give up driving an SUV. Three-car garage? Forget it. Vacation cottage? Irresponsible.

            The problem is, no one is defining where we stop. Do we stop before or after we have to pick up our ration of Soylent Green at the town square in order to eat?

            Don't get me wrong. Many of the things we need to give up will turn out not to be sacrifices at all. Our lives will improve as we get off the hedonistic treadmill. But there are also many true joys that have to go if we are not willing to face the music about limits to growth.

            Dave Gardner Producer/Director Hooked on Growth: Our Misguided Quest for Prosperity www.growthbusters.com

            by Growthbuster on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 01:29:41 PM PDT

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        •  So what? (0+ / 0-)

          Divide one number into the other to get a population density, people per square mile, for each nation.

          We export our ecological footprint from the U.S. today, in a big way. Population density is just one small part of the conversation. Sustainable choices for the U.S.:

          1. Cut our population to 20% of its current size

          or

          1. Cut our consumption to 20% of its current level

          Or some more moderate combination of both.

          Dave Gardner Producer/Director Hooked on Growth: Our Misguided Quest for Prosperity www.growthbusters.com

          by Growthbuster on Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 01:33:47 PM PDT

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