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  •  It really is not that easy. (3+ / 0-)
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    canyonrat, askew, exmearden

    There are people in Alaska who have spent entire generations doing Logging and Fishing and mining and whatnot.  To you, it's an industry.  To them it's a heritage.

    it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be.

    You are entitled to express your opinion. But you are NOT entitled to agreement.

    by DawnG on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 11:48:29 AM PDT

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    •  Not a good reason to perpetuate damaging (0+ / 0-)

      economic and physical ecosystems, though. Otherwise, one could say the same thing about a crack house, after all.

      It's a complicated dance between loggers and the forests they decimate for money. Not all "industry" is benign or sustainable.

      "We're the Stains, and we don't put out!"

      by CMYK on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 12:10:25 PM PDT

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      •  oh you have GOT to be kidding me! (1+ / 0-)
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        exmearden

        You did not just compare logging to a fucking crack house.

        Jesus H Christ.  I can count my logging expertise in minutes and I still know more about the actual industry than YOU do.  

        Unbelievable.

        You are entitled to express your opinion. But you are NOT entitled to agreement.

        by DawnG on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 12:22:19 PM PDT

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        •  You're right, I didn't. (1+ / 0-)
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          But the argument that a business or industry shouldn't be disrupted because it's been a way of life only goes so far. That's the point I was trying to make.

          I live near logging communities and am familiar with the industry, mostly the larger operations. They are an integral part of the fabric of life out here and change comes slowly. It's tempting to romanticize logging, but it's a lot more complicated than that.

          "We're the Stains, and we don't put out!"

          by CMYK on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 08:22:21 PM PDT

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    •  It is actually. (1+ / 0-)
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      We once had a huge steel and coal industry here in Pittsburgh. Now we don't. People move, they get retrained or they retire. It's reality. And when it is an industry whose record for reckless and irresponsible practices are legendary, then don't expect a tear from me. The majority of those guys could care less about the environment or the conservation practices that could have preserved their jobs.

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