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  •  No, Shut California Down! (2+ / 0-)
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    Aeolus, Gator Keyfitz

    We have called, and we expect our senators and assemblymen/women to reject this BS of a budget.

    We expect the Dems in leadership to grow some balls (even the women) and stand up against this budget, and against the governor.

    Vote down this budget and send one to the governor that takes care of people, takes care of the environment and, yes, finds some way to raise some funds to do that.

    Yes, I know that the legislative Republicans and the governor will not vote for this or would veto it if presented.

    Tough shit. Send the budget to Arnie anyway.

    If they don't vote for it, or if he vetoes it, and that causes the state to shut down, then... So. Be. It.

    If schools get closed and cities go bankrupt and firefighters get laid off... So. Be. It.

    If my state devolves into anarchy and rural health clinics close and they pay bills with IOUs that bankers refuse to honor, then... So. Be. It.

    If that horrible and desperate scenario is what it takes to convince the voters to throw out the Repubs, to reject the 2/3 vote on budgets, then... So. Be. It.

    If this is what it takes to make voters put enough pressure on the Republicans so that some of them will vote for a more reasonable budget, then... So. Be. It.

    Now, I like my state senator and representative, Elaine Alquist and Joe Coto. They are good Dems and I have no problems with them at all.

    With that said, I hope that the voters of Californis throw the bums out in the next election. And that means ALL of them. Even the good Dems that I like.

    If Alquist and Coto get primaried in the next election (don't know off the top of my head if they will be termed out), I WILL be voting for their primary opponents.

    No, I will not vote for a Republican in any general election, but will vote against them if primaried.

    No, don't keep California open.

    Shut it down, if that's what it takes.


    •  oh boy... (1+ / 0-)
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      but this is where i'm at. I say let 'er sink until we get our structural problems fixed.

      the greatest threat to america is its sense of exceptionalism.

      by SeanF on Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 01:55:10 PM PDT

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    •  That sure is easy for you - you don't depend on (10+ / 0-)

      the income from the state.  My wife is a school teacher and I've been unemployed for 9 months now.  The only thing between us and the streets is my wife's income.  So to shut it down would put lots of state employees out of jobs, out of homes, and the streets with no social net to catch anyone.  I'm in favor of a new constitution, but I'd sure hate for the message to come on the backs of the hard working people with little or no options.

      "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength", George Orwell, "1984" -7.63 -5.95

      by dangoch on Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 01:57:56 PM PDT

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      •  I Understand (3+ / 0-)
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        fumie, Gator Keyfitz, greenmama

        I'd sure hate for the message to come on the backs of the hard working people with little or no options.

        Oh, I know. I really do not want to see anybody thrown out of work or lose their homes.

        I was out of work for 7 months last year, and it got pretty desperate for a while.

        Somehow, though, we have got to make the voters mad enough to either finally kick the Repubs out of office, or to put enough pressure on them that they will vote to raise even the minumum of taxes needed to keep things afloat.


      •  I was laid off last September (2+ / 0-)
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        fumie, 14justice

        so I understand your situation.  But the Republicans are counting on the Democrats caving in to whatever the Republicans want because the Democrats don't want to see people suffer thru a goverment shutdown.  I think the long-term pain of adopting a cuts-only budget will be worse than the short-term pain of a government shutdown.

    •  I see a major epiphany beginning to take (8+ / 0-)

      shape all over America. I call it the 'eat all you want and still get thin' syndrome by which America has lived for years, maybe since Saint Ronnie conned the entire nation into believing that every American could have everything they wanted and noone really has to pay for it.

      Play now, pay later, trouble is people still want to play but noone wants to pay. It's like the old saying 'everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die'.

      Well it's dying time again.  Death and taxes, inevitable.  The rich don't want to pay for the poor no matter how worthy a progressive goal that is.  And rich usually means someone who has just a little bit more than someone else. Most everyone doesn't mind sacrificing for their families and loved ones but not your families or loved ones. Human nature. Social darwinianism is still alive and doing very well.

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