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  •  American River.. (7+ / 0-)

    We usually agree on most issues here at Dkos, so as a friend, I want to tell you that Kaiser Permanente is a NonProfit Health Maintenence Organization with outstanding patient results. It is NOT one of the Bad Guys, funds all kinds of research to improve prevention, lower costs, and is extremely well regarded in the Health Expert commentary as a model for the public option.

    I have had Kaiser for 30 years, as did my parents and grandparents who worked for Henry Kaiser during WW2 at the Vancouver WA Shipyards. Kaiser Permanente is not a blood sucking insurance scam. They say what they will do, and they do what they say.

    The Public Option plans being considered are largely modeled on Kaiser's research and health plan. Most people have great results, but as always, there are problems in health care when the human body and its systems are being treated. Anecdotally, bad stories can be dredged up, which the Republicans and others do, but statistically, the Pacific Northwest is one of the healthiest regions of the country, and that is largely due to this excellent NonProfit. I am not an employee, just a consumer.

    Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

    by OregonOak on Thu Jul 23, 2009 at 11:00:00 AM PDT

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    •  if you think they are always so wonderful (2+ / 0-)
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      AmericanRiverCanyon, elwior

      I'd like to suggest that you watch the film Sicko.

      Here is a link to the full video on google
      http://video.google.com/...

      I watched it last week.  Powerful.  

    •  OregonOak, every single health care diary attract (2+ / 0-)
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      Kentucky DeanDemocrat, 4Freedom

      .... attracts people who were alerted by various search engines and spambots that it is time to post their scripted advertisements for Keester PermaNotty HMO.

      I know how this works, please don't be patronizing to me.  

      I would start hide rating them automatically, but I don't want to disrupt nyceve's diaries.  It's better to show the pattern, it's always a variation on the same set of comments, it will always be shown that the poster is an employee or a family member of one.  And I'm sure that they give very special treatment to those that speak kindly of them.

      I reiterate my usual warning-  do not, under any circumstances, go into the Keester PermaNotty HMO system with any kind of chronic condition.  You will not be treated. You will be told to live a healthy lifestyle, and you will suffer.   They get those "outstanding" patient results by kicking the sick people out of their system.

      Real Keester "patients" know that they are not "great" but cut throat. But the unfortunates stuck in their system can't complain because there is no place else to go.

      I have spoken and written with many Canadians, and to compare Keester to anything like a Canadian system is ludicrous.

      "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

      by AmericanRiverCanyon on Thu Jul 23, 2009 at 04:28:52 PM PDT

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      •  And I Support a Full Public Option (0+ / 0-)

        with no reservations. I just know that there are ScamCo Insurance and there are more credible ones. Both will improve greatly with a strong Public Option.

        I was responding to your reaction. We have to know what we are talking about specifically to have credibility on this issue. I dont pray at Keester, I just know they have done a good job for many people, and I want people to know not all is hopeless, yet, not all is corrupt and rotten to the core. Some people, and some NonProfits out there really do give a crap, and they deserve better than curses.  

        We can make it better. We are on the same side.

        Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

        by OregonOak on Fri Jul 24, 2009 at 02:04:17 PM PDT

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