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  •  I don't think i've seen that type before... (3+ / 0-)
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    are they good?

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    by borkitekt on Sun Jul 26, 2009 at 03:19:18 PM PDT

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    •  yes, they're pretty good (5+ / 0-)
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      but they tend to completely disintegrate when heated, so I bake them wih some garlic and then use them as a spread for bread.

      They're North American mushrooms, so I'm not surprised you haven't seen them. It might not have helped that I messed up the name. Should be mica caps, not tops. Latin Coprinus micaceus.

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      by wide eyed lib on Sun Jul 26, 2009 at 03:35:26 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, (3+ / 0-)

        I've never seen them in this color, but in white and some shades of gray and brown.

        In Sweden, the white ones with a rough/rugged appearance are called fjällig bläcksvamp trans. foresty ink mushroom or Coprinus comatus. According to my fiance, kids throw them at each other and they get stains on their clothing+ not sure if they come off.

        According to Wiki in English:

        Coprinus comatus, the shaggy ink cap, lawyer's wig, or shaggy mane, is a common fungus often seen growing on lawns, along gravel roads and waste areas. The young fruiting bodies first appear as white cylinders emerging from the ground, then the bell-shaped caps open out. The caps are white, and covered with scales - this is the origin of the common names of the fungus. The gills beneath the cap are white, then pink, then turn black and secrete a black liquid filled with spores (hence the “ink cap” name).
        When young it is an excellent edible mushroom provided that it is eaten soon after being collected (it keeps very badly because of the autodigestion of its gills and cap). The species is cultivated in China as food.

        Though, upon looking in our mushroom book, the white one seems to be the only one we have here that we can eat- a gray variety, Coprinus atramentarius is poisonous if taken with alcohol. According to the book, a light beer the day after eating one is enough to activate the poison.

        Wiki explains a bit further:

        Coprinopsis atramentaria, commonly known as the Common Inkcap or Inky Cap, is an edible mushroom found in Europe and North America. Previously known as Coprinus atramentarius, it is the second best known Ink cap and previous member of the genus Coprinus after C. comatus. The specific name derives from atramentum, Latin for "ink".
        It is a widespread fungus and eaten, though it is poisonous when consumed with alcohol - hence another common name, Tippler's Bane.
        The black liquid that this mushroom releases after being picked was once used as ink.[1]
        ...
        Toxicity

        Consumed with alcohol, Coprinopsis atramentaria is toxic. Symptoms include facial reddening, nausea, vomiting, malaise agitation and palpitations and arise 20 minutes to 2 hours after consumption. The fungus contains coprine, which blocks the action of acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, allowing the buildup of acetaldehyde in the body. Acetaldehyde is an intermediate metabolite of ethanol and is responsible for most symptoms of a hangover.
        Although very unpleasant, the syndrome has not been associated with any fatalities. The symptoms can occur if even a small amount of alcohol is consumed up to 3 days after eating the mushrooms and continue for over a week.
        Coprine has been found to have mutagenic and gonadotoxic effects on animals, causing testicular lesions. For this reason it may not be a good idea to consume this species. [1] [2]

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        by borkitekt on Mon Jul 27, 2009 at 02:48:38 AM PDT

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        •  I didn't mean to suggest that (1+ / 0-)
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          inky caps as a group don't grow in Sweden, just that mica caps in particular don't.

          I was reading an article about mushrooming in Scandinavia, and it mentioned official mushroom hunting days where government funded experts have tables where you can (or maybe have to?) take any mushrooms you find for positive identification. I think it was Sweden, but I can't remember exactly. I do remember thinking that was yet another reason to love living in a socialist country!

          For anyone still reading along, this mushroom group are called inky caps because the tops disintegrate (the botanical phrase is actually "autodigest," believe it or not) into a black liquid from the outside in as they decompose and release their spores. Sometimes you'll find them partially decomposed with black goo dripping off the edges.

          I know C. Atrimentaria as alcohol ink cap, and it's best to avoid it for the reasons you mention. My book says that the symptoms are temporary (if awful) with no long-term consequences but I'll defer to wikipedia about the possible "gonadotoxic effects." Yikes!

          Some of the inky cap mushrooms are edible and some of them aren't, so (as always) it's important to make sure you're got the right species.

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          by wide eyed lib on Mon Jul 27, 2009 at 07:50:46 AM PDT

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          •  Heh, (1+ / 0-)
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            No, actually, if I mistyped a brainwave it was my bad- it was either late at night or while I wasn't entirely caffeinated:) I was surprised to see the yellow color of them, as far as I know, there are only two real yellow mushrooms so far that I've seen here- the Chanterelle and one called a False Chanterelle.

            But, I do know Swedes really get into their mushrooms- god knows there are enough mushrooms for everyone here- and I can't wait to go picking again this weekend- we have a few secret places out in the countryside where we've found quite a few interesting ones before. And, on that note, we've even had some wonderful ones growing in yard. Sad to say that I waited a little too long to pick them and a deer eventually did :(

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            by borkitekt on Mon Jul 27, 2009 at 11:09:11 AM PDT

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