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  •  So no recertification, no repeal of tenure, no (1+ / 0-)
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    Calfacon

    performance grading, no outside disciplinary-board. Sounds like a dream job.

    Sisterhood is powerful!

    by Shane Hensinger on Sun Jul 26, 2009 at 04:46:56 PM PDT

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    •  You are reading that in -- (3+ / 0-)
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      fiddler crabby, miss SPED, Egalitare

      Obviously those affected by the performance of a teacher, i.e. the students and their parents, ought to have some sort of say-so over whether that teacher is to continue.  Meanwhile there are plenty of other people already evaluating the performance of teachers, i.e. principals and their superintendents.  What is being questioned, in this diary and mine, is arbitrary and paternalistic "performance evaluation" which comes from a space which knows nothing of the circumstances of teaching.

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Cassiodorus on Sun Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23:52 PM PDT

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    •  Applications are being accepted almost everywhere (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Actually, not. (0+ / 0-)

        Most jurisdictions have imposed onerous requirements on who can be a teacher, requiring unnecessary and frivolous credentials.

        The purpose of this is to block competition from entering the market.

        Another big fear is that performance measurement will show whether or not a second Master's degree or extra credit hours over the summer really make a difference to students.

    •  How many realize that there is such (1+ / 0-)
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      a shortage of teachers who get certified when they go to college and major in some form of education that many are brought into the profession in an alternate certification program?  

      How many realize that many leave after five years or less?  How many will leave when the employment situation is more positive elsewhere?

      Why do you want to come down on teachers when there are not enough of them?  There are many who are within five to ten years of retirement and these are the lifers.  There are not so many lifers in the younger ranks.  They see working hard with little control and then getting blamed for lack of results.  During this time they have been (depending on where they are teaching) flipped off, cursed out, and disprespected in many ways by students and parents with little backup.  

      What will happen when there aren't enough quality teachers, even with alternate certification?  I have seen some great teachers leave with a sad, but dejected spirit.

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