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  •  Do you believe that is the prevailing attitude? (0+ / 0-)

    Let's try this another way. Let's assume you view all expressions of prejudice with equal opposition, and react to all manifestations of prejudice with the same response, no matter who the target of the discrimination is.

    Do you believe that is the prevailing response in America?

    Do you think people who object to expressions of prejudice against gays generally have the same reaction when they encounter expressions of prejudice against atheists?

    Do you believe the public response to a public figure denigrating gays would be the same as if a public figure denigrated atheists? How about a public figure denigrating Jews? Muslims? Women? People with disabilities?

    It is not legal to discriminate in employment against members of the LGBT community, or against women, or against Jews or Muslims, of against people with disability - or, against atheists.

    Do you claim that, when members of the public learn about illegal discrimination against an individual member of these groups, that - whether they are a right wing bigot, a left wing progressive, or anyone in between - that,whatever form of discrimination they condemn in their worldview - do you claim that it is common if not ubiquitous to react with the same vehement rejection to discrimination against atheists?

    Let's assume you are the exception to the rule, and it's all the same to you. Can you at least acknowledge that you are, in fact, the exception to the rule - as every public survey on the matter has demonstrated?

    One day posterity will remember, this strange era, these strange times, when ordinary common honesty was called courage. -- Yevgeny Yevtushenko

    by RandomActsOfReason on Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 06:55:10 PM PDT

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    •  The thing is (1+ / 0-)
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      You haven't proved there's prejudice at Denny's. All you've done is shown your own.

      When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. -Jimi Hendrix -6.0 -5.33

      by Cali Techie on Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 07:05:28 PM PDT

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      •  You never respond directly to challenges (0+ / 0-)

        doesn't reflect well on your intellectual honesty. Clearly, you have no interest in engaging in honest debate, you just keep reiterating the same statement over and over, oblivious of the other conversations taking place all over this thread.

        We're done. You're more interested in talking than listening, in stating than debating, in merely asserting rather than helping others understand.

        Call me all the names you want. Ironically, as you continue to complain that I and others are making assumptions about the Denny's manager, you continue to make assumptions about my alleged prejudice and that of others, based on far less evidence.

        One day posterity will remember, this strange era, these strange times, when ordinary common honesty was called courage. -- Yevgeny Yevtushenko

        by RandomActsOfReason on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 11:52:33 AM PDT

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        •  Your challenges (0+ / 0-)

          are meaningless because they are not based in anything resembling reality, and yes I did respond. I said I would not give any business I felt was discriminatory my custom. Most businesses know it's not good business to practice discrimination.

          You've not proved Denny's was actively engaged in discrimination. Neither you nor G2 can point to anything other than a poorly worded flyer. By your definition the senior menu is also discriminatory since age is also a protected class and offering discounts to people over a certain age is age discrimination.

          It would be discrimination if they put a sign on their door saying "no service to non-christians" and demanded people say "The Lord's Prayer" from memory in order to be seated. Offering a discount to churchgoers is just another promotion which isn't any different than offering discounts to people who belong to auto clubs or have a passport from another country. In the end you're just trying to manufacture some outrage where there isn't really anything about which to be outraged. That's a tactic the right uses and we should be better than that.

          When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. -Jimi Hendrix -6.0 -5.33

          by Cali Techie on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 11:22:59 PM PDT

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