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  •  The only thing racial about the incident (6+ / 0-)

    was the Gates called Crowley a racist for responding to a burglary call in his home. Nothing else related to skin color, not even the 911 call. Crowley entered, Gates called him a racist, a few more things happened that are in dispute but are generally about Gates badgering him, and then Crowley arrested him.

    Say what you want about cops arresting people for being disrespectful, but it has nothing to do with race.

    •  You're entitled to your opinion (3+ / 0-)
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      futurebird, awcomeon, miss SPED

      and you're probably in the majority in this case, but I sure wish you'd respond to my argument, rather than just the title.

    •  Well, we know Crowely didn't have a reason (5+ / 0-)
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      lysias, GN1927, rmx2630, awcomeon, miss SPED

      to arrest him, and isn't being entirely honest about his motivations, either.  So there's no evidence as to what he was thinking.  All we know is that he made a false arrest.

      But if it makes you feel better to argue that he was violating the law while color blind, well, guess away.

      Definition of bad police work: when you are called to investigate a break-in and end up arresting the homeowner.

      by Inland on Mon Jul 27, 2009 at 08:57:11 PM PDT

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    •  Arrests may have nothing to do with race for (1+ / 0-)
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      miss SPED

      some people.  Other people are often not that lucky.  

      In reality, none of us were present during this incident and none of us know for sure what really happened.  

      However, if Prof. Gates was yelling and shouting as Officer Crowley reported, it seems as if such a loud, disorderly commotion would have been audible when the officer was calling in the report.  Admittedly, I only heard a small portion of the released 911 call and Officer Crowley's call in, but that portion was where Crowley said that Gates was a "little" disorderly and for the backup to keep coming.  No loud shouting was audible during that snippet.  

      Has anyone else heard portions of the tape where Gates' alleged loud shouting was audible?  

    •  the officer lied. (3+ / 0-)
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      rincewind, GN1927, Virginia mom

      Gates was not yelling. You hear his voice, but it was not yelling as the officer wrote in his report.
      The officer never spoke to the 911 caller
      The 911 caller never said anythinig about black men.
      Crowley lied on his report and said she did.
      Crowley had proof of Gates living in the house and called other police anyway.
      He arrested Gates even tho Gates had broken no law.
      He was white and used the power of his badge to arrest a black man because he knew his word would be believed over the black man.

      Right.  It had nothing to do with race.

      "I aint scared of Al Quaeda, I'm scared of Al Cracker"-Chris Rock...

      by vmm918 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 at 09:27:53 PM PDT

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    •  He arrested him for what? (3+ / 0-)
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      GN1927, rmx2630, miss SPED

      Being in his own house?  And cuffed him?  Really?  Once Gates showed the ID that confirmed that that was his house, the correct response would have been, "sorry to trouble you sir," and exit.

    •  Did you catch Hardball tonight? (3+ / 0-)
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      rincewind, GN1927, miss SPED

      Lawrence O'Donnell was great, and he found some discrepancies in the police report

      1.  the lady that called in, according to her lawyer on CNN, denies ever telling Officer Crowley that she saw two black men with backpacks
      1. listening to the tape of the officer calling in, there is no yelling or anything in the back ground, he said that Prof Gates identified himself, and the proceeded to ask for more police cars to be sent

      Listening to the 911 tapes, she never even mentioned the word Black, she said that one of them possibly could have been hispanic and that she saw suitcases on the front porch

      So my question would be to the officer, and asking him why he lied in his police report, other than to try to support his side of the story?

      I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak-President Barack Obama schools Ed Henry

      by lpeggy on Tue Jul 28, 2009 at 12:12:33 AM PDT

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