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  •  Isn't Obama a Blue Dog himself? (1+ / 0-)
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    Around when he was inaugurated TN Blue Dog Jim Copper was saying he WAS.. to his local papers..

    Health insurance premiums are projected to consume one third of family income by 2010, and all of it by 2025 (Am Fam Physician. 2005;72:)

    by Andiamo on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 07:46:44 AM PDT

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    •  I think that is inaccurate. (5+ / 0-)
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      ferg, askew, GN1927, alkalinesky, Egalitare

      Your ultra-left posturing seems divorced from reality.  I have critcized Obama both during the primary and after his election from the left, but he is more accurately portrayed as someone left of center with progressive tendencies.  

      If you cannot see the differences between Ralph Nader, Bernie Sanders, Brack Obama, and Jim Cooper (hint, the list is from left to right, but Obama still is closer to Sanders than to Cooper), then for all your posturing, you achive little.  It's a damn shame, because single payer is the right answer.  We need a strategy to get to single payer from here, but your work does not seem to achive anything toward that goal.    

      They "prefer an America where parents will lie awake at night worried if they can afford health care their children need."

      by TomP on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 07:56:40 AM PDT

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      •  To be honest (0+ / 0-)

        I really don't give a rats ass where on the spectrum of left to right Obama,Rahm,or any of the other players are I want a Health care reform bill with a STRONG Public Option and if it's not delivered(as promised)I believe Obama will at best be another mediocre President.Maybe even a one termer.

        I know this, the public option was a compromise to begin with and if Obama moves that line in the sand and turns health care reform into a joke his Presidency is toast.

        http://dumpjoe.com/

        by ctkeith on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 08:15:39 AM PDT

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        •  It actually does matter, (2+ / 0-)
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          becasue "left" on a spectrum is a proxy for various issue positions that favor people over profits (or at least seek a level playing fieled between people and profits, i.e., capital).

          I agree with you about the public option, but at the risk of heresy point out that health care is NOT the only issue that matters.  Yes, it's very important.

          In addition, "failed" presidency is silly.  If Obama fails, we all do, because progressives need Obama.  As for "medicore," that's a huge improvement over what we have had for 30 plus years.    

          Even if Obama moves that line in the sand, I will support him.  I will be angry, but the political reality is that progressives (leftists) need Obama and he needs us.

          The forces of fascism are strong in America and will become stronger as the new economic relaities sink in.  We need a common front.  Criticize Obama's poor choices when he makes them, but realize that until 2016, we both need each other.

          They "prefer an America where parents will lie awake at night worried if they can afford health care their children need."

          by TomP on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 08:27:03 AM PDT

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          •  Agree with you, but you're pissing into (3+ / 0-)
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            the wind on this site.  The concept of politics as a process, not a piece of legislation, is completely foreign to a disturbing number of Kossacks.  

            "Eyes on the prize" is a slogan not to be taken lightly.  It means you are committed to the process as much as the end product, can accept disappointments as inevitable but never deviate from your goal.

            The notion that single-payer health insurance was going to be a reality one year into Obama's term is ludicrous.  The man can't dissolve the corporate ties in the Senate (hint: VOTERS do that), and he can't push a bill that he knows the Senate has zero chance of passing.   He's boxed in, and the only hope he has for future success is that his allies -- that's US, people -- hang with him as he tries again.  

            It's becoming crystal clear why we can't get any progressive agenda through Congress.  We have all the collective patience of a preschool.  

            It is scarcely possible to conceive of the laws of motion if one looks at them from a tennis ball's point of view. (Brecht)

            by dotalbon on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 08:46:29 AM PDT

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            •  Well said. (1+ / 0-)
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              This is so true:

              "Eyes on the prize" is a slogan not to be taken lightly.  It means you are committed to the process as much as the end product, can accept disappointments as inevitable but never deviate from your goal.

              My way of saying this is as follows: "It's a long struggle."

              We are fighting extremely strong enemies who have much power.  if we can improve the lives of people even a little, we are doing good.  It's not a game; people's lives are affected.

              Good comment.

              They "prefer an America where parents will lie awake at night worried if they can afford health care their children need."

              by TomP on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 08:54:55 AM PDT

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            •  Totally agree. (0+ / 0-)

              And great comment. Americans are acting like children with the attention span of a gnat. It's pathetic and sad, and perhaps we as a nation just aren't ready to be a leader (or even a very good follower). America is a sad shadow of what it used to be.

              President Obama. Yes We Did.

              by alkalinesky on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 10:14:31 AM PDT

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    •  And I remember Obama (1+ / 0-)
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      Quite vehemently insisting he be removed from their membership rolls.  He's NOT a Blue Dog.

      Modern Conservatism in 3 words: "Taxez iz, bad!"

      by slippytoad on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 08:08:45 AM PDT

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    •  His policies are blue dog (0+ / 0-)

      or maybe even Eisenhower Republican.

      "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer health care program." Pres. Goldman Sachs Obama, 6/30/03

      by formernadervoter on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 08:27:54 AM PDT

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