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  •  Great, the GOP will love to hear that (0+ / 0-)

    it's what they've been waiting for.  The blip of progressive hope kindled last November will be dead, because the foot soldiers left when they couldn't achieve 100% reform in eight months.

    Hate to break it to you, but the GOP base doesn't work this way.  It's why they win.

    It is scarcely possible to conceive of the laws of motion if one looks at them from a tennis ball's point of view. (Brecht)

    by dotalbon on Wed Jul 29, 2009 at 09:36:31 AM PDT

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    •  We need to be more effective (1+ / 0-)
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      I suggest we do things that put the fear of God into people who supposedly represent us. While I don't support political violence, I do support intimidation. We should peaceably occupy Washington, DC. We have tried playing the game. We contributed. We went door-to-door. We voted heavily Democratic in the last two elections. And we get fucked again and again by the most conservative factions of our party, who have an extraordinary amount of power. It's deeply undemocratic.

    •  Incorrect. (1+ / 0-)
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      The GOP base is actually more interested in ideological purity than the Dem base.  Behold what happened to Arlen Specter.

      The reason it's harder for the Dems is that our progressive base fights against entrenched power and influence in Washington.  We are the real mavericks.  How difficult would it be to bring health "reform" if our reform didn't touch corporate interests?  Think about all we'd "achieve"!  snark

      In that context, last year's election was remarkable: it took the Bush administration to put a (nominally) progressive candidate in power.  Unfortunately, the opportunity for real improvement is being wasted.

    •  The GOP is deaf. They have a blinkered drive (0+ / 0-)

      forward to their goals.  They would've passed "health reform" legislation in weeks (with little or no alteration) if Bush had handed it to the congress.

    •  I'm sick of this defense. 100% reform in 8 mos.? (0+ / 0-)

      Who is asking for/expecting that, for Christ's sake?  We are getting a bucket of warm spit in place of one of the campaign linchpins AGAIN.
      Jesus!  It doesn't even approach drive by reform as this develops.
      And it was Obama who mentioned (when McCain stopped campaigning to "deal" with the financial crisis in D.C.)that a President has to grapple with a whole host of serious problems at once and manage it.
      When a supporter calls bullshit on a switch-up, it doesn't remotely suggest a whine about 100% reform not being achieved.

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