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  •  You misunderstand (0+ / 0-)

    While I agree that the COLB is all that is required to prove his native birth it is not the same as the BC.

    "Obama has released his birth certificate" <- FALSE <br>"Obama has released his COLB" <- True <br>"Obama's COLB is a legal short form copy of his BC" <- TRUE <br>"The BC and COLB are the same thing" <- FALSE</p>

    So, while I agree that the burden of proof is on the birthers to prove Obama was not born in Hawaii I also belive that it is incumbent on those who try to debunk the birthers to get their facts straight.

    Proof of Hawaiian birth: COLB = BC
    Purposes of discussion and dealing with birthers: COLB != BC

    •  It's just usually when that fine of a distinction (0+ / 0-)

      is made, it matters to the person making it.  I think we need to do more of the first line when dealing with Birthers so we make it about burdens of proof and not who released what because then you can always say "you have no reason to suspect anything is wrong here, so you're not going to be taken seriously".  An intellectual debate is impossible, about all you can do is to show them why they are banging their heads against the wall and to try to show them why they should stop.

      I apologize if I misunderstood your tone.

      "I'm not sure how much reputational capital is left in the Republican Party."-7/28/09 Chris Hays on Countdown

      by AZphilosopher on Thu Jul 30, 2009 at 04:50:15 PM PDT

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