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  •  Git da gubmint outta my Medicare (11+ / 0-)

    Speaks to the complete stupidity of the general masses.

    The problem the Dems have is in educating these people enough to understand a VERY complex issue.

    Ain't gonna happen.

    thisis one of those cases where the Dems have to simply do it and forget about the polls.  Once the policy is enacted the people will realize the benefits and the polls will go up.  Just like they like Medicare without ever realizing it's government run, so too will they like Obama's plan without realizing it's government run.  That is the model of a well run government, one you don't even realize is there.  The sooner the Dems realize this and tell the repubs to go fuck off, the sooner they can push health care reform through and the better off all of us will be.

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 05:11:10 AM PDT

    •  No. The Dems have approached this horribly. (2+ / 0-)
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      They have presented this to the American people in a fashiop that leaves most Americans feeling they are going to get something for nothing and we'll stiff the rich for most of the cost.  But mostly, the Dems have done their usual song and dance that completely ignores the funding aspects until the very end.

      They should have presented this as a problem all Americans will need to contribute to to fix.  Where is the poll that asks Americans if they would be willing to contribute 1-2% payroll tax to this problem and get it fixed right once and for all?

      "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - G. Marx

      by Skeptical Bastard on Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 05:16:49 AM PDT

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    •  Called (3+ / 0-)
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      sherlyle, skohayes, Egalitare

      my mom last night because of something she had said earlier in the week that I didn't, at the time, have time to respond to. She commented that the new plan would take away her option to see her own doctor and that if she didn't join 'the plan' she would be fined.

      Ok...straightened her out on those. Also asked if she was pleased with Medicare. She is. Hey, isn't that  Govt-run health care? Why yes, I think it is. Also, told her of the comments on Jon Stewart's show last night about people at town halls asking completely ridiculous questions ("The Govt is going to send people to my door to explain how I'll die" and "The Govt is going to put us old people out to pasture"). See, when I put it like that she had to realize that, once again, politicians were using scare tactics on the elderly.

      Hopefully she slept better last night...

    •  hence the winning program name (5+ / 0-)

      "Medicare for All".  People like Medicare, and there's a reason for it. It WORKS.  Never mind "competition" or "reform" or "mandate" - Medicare for All.  Which makes it critical to throw out that provision that decouples the public plan from Medicare rates.

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      by louisev on Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 05:24:18 AM PDT

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      •  The "for All" sounds slightly patronizing and (0+ / 0-)

        exclusive of other options.  That Medicare as presently constituted is optional is generally not pointed out.

        Still, "for All" is better than any phrase including the word "equal" because lots of people don't want to be equal.

        Medicare Opt-In would seem to address those concerns.  Everybody gets to do their own thing and nobody gets left out.

        How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

        by hannah on Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 06:06:15 AM PDT

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