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  •  I like this diary as a counterpoint to all the (2+ / 0-)
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    devtob, wilderness voice

    handwringing, "what are Dems doing? if they blow health care, I'm out of here" diaries.

    To read dkos, the 2 party system that's been in place for 150 years is disintegrating at both ends.

    •  Well, I actually think it is (4+ / 0-)
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      Lupin, Mnemosyne, Man Oh Man, yaque

      I think a third party is going to appear and soon.

      And honestly, I think it's going to come to a head in about 10-15 years, when the overwhelming majority of the Fox News demographic starts going into the ground and/or no longer communicating with the world, and the generation coming up now starts flexing its political muscle.

      And that party will be MORE liberal than the Democrats and it will move the country sharply to the left.  And permanently.

      I said this 9 years ago: George W. Bush was going to be the death of the Republican Party.

      I am more convinced than ever that I was right.

      Max Baucus is a backstabbing fukstick.

      by slippytoad on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:36:57 AM PDT

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      •  Do you mean the Millenials (0+ / 0-)

        Of whom I am a very proud member, or do you mean the very young now who are part of whatever the next significant generational gap is going to be (the echo-Millenials?), who also show a lot of promise but can't possibly be as good as any group I am a part of?

        •  Well, Obama is ALMOST a genXer (0+ / 0-)

          He's just 8 years older than me.  I expect the next President to be GenX, quite likely.  That means that all the generations BEHIND me will at that point be looking forward at us old fogies and waiting for us to get out of the way.

          And . . . that means that a significant chunk of the voting-age population will be younger than me and reacting to the status-quo with blunt impatience.  

          Under those conditions I really can't see Republicans lasting much longer.  They are vehemently defending a state of things that benefits virtually no one.

          Max Baucus is a backstabbing fukstick.

          by slippytoad on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 08:51:49 AM PDT

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    •  Governance For the People Is Disintegrating (2+ / 0-)
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      Lupin, Mnemosyne

      The military has been increasingly untouchable for 40 years, and the top end of the economy is too strong to permit the caliber of health programs the entire civilized world has adopted to ever be implemented here.

      What we're fighting over right now is a program that nobody would think to claim would jump us ahead of many if any of the democracies with advanced economies.

      The visible obstacle here is our Democrats more than the Republicans, because our system still requires the vast sums of money to publicize campaigns that only the rich and the corporate world can supply.

      The Republicans can be raptured to heaven but their primary constituents are stronger than ever after 8 years of Bush and 30 of Reaganism. Both parties are committed to retaining an array of core Reagan principles including minimally progressive taxation, maintaining full access of 3rd world competition to our labor, and continuing to grow a superpower complex whose last peer enemy collapsed a generation ago.

      There's not much to debate about the prospects for the people with those boundaries fixed.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:44:07 AM PDT

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