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  •  If true...we will find... (1+ / 0-)
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    greenskeeper

    a person to replace Obama himself as President.

    "The people have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want and the courage to take." - Emma Goldman

    by jvackert on Fri Aug 07, 2009 at 03:28:30 PM PDT

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    •  rolls eyes (2+ / 0-)
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      Matt Z, NuttyProf

      If we run anyone other than Obama, then a Republican will be President in 2012, almost certainly. The blow the Dems (Obama included, of course) would have dealt themselves at that point would be fatal.

      Forward to Yesterday -- Reactionary aesthetics and liberal politics (in that order)

      by LABobsterofAnaheim on Fri Aug 07, 2009 at 03:59:05 PM PDT

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      •  So What? (1+ / 0-)
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        Duncan Kinder

        So, I'm assuming you're just telling progressives and liberals to take it up the rump again for the team after taking it from Obama and his conserva-Dems for the time since he's been in office. Oh yeah, let's accuse the Progressives for f'cking up the Health Care negotiations, which Obama has presently negotiated with Big Pharma protecting Big Pharma profits. If the Democrats cannot have enough backbone to adhere to their platform and suppor the issues cared for by their base and the millions of other Americans who voted for Obama for POLICY REASONS. Then fuck them.

        "The people have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want and the courage to take." - Emma Goldman

        by jvackert on Fri Aug 07, 2009 at 05:46:46 PM PDT

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        •  You assume way too fucking much. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm just saying that as a practical matter, talking about primarying Obama six months in is as very poor proposition at best. Actually, it's idiotic.

          Now, if in three years nothing has been accomplished, and it looks like Obama is going to lose anyway a la LBJ, I might have some more sympathy for such talk, but seeing as he is without a doubt the most progressive president of most of our lifetimes, I think this kind of talk is beyond unintelligent -- unless you are the kind of far leftist who wants Republicans in power to hasten the day of the glorious revolution.

          That being said, of course everyone should be agitating and putting pressure on, but the atittude you express will get us fucking nowhere. It certainly hasn't worked in any time or place I've read about or experienced.

          Forward to Yesterday -- Reactionary aesthetics and liberal politics (in that order)

          by LABobsterofAnaheim on Sat Aug 08, 2009 at 11:45:41 AM PDT

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