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  •  Except the military wants those (5+ / 0-)
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    18 yr old males, before the brain has finished growing enough to start considering consequences.

    Until recently, you could enlist at 17 with or w/o a high school diploma.

    And in earlier times, boys as you as 12 and 14 were ripe for military service.  There's a reason for that.

    Today it is theoretically possible to get your education first on delayed enlistment.  Except, of course, we're at war, so delayed enlistment is a myth, but one recruiters are still selling.

    "No man is my enemy, my own hands imprison me, love rescue me." -- Love Rescue Me/U2

    by winterbanyan on Sat Aug 08, 2009 at 08:00:13 AM PDT

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    •  There would be nothing preventing (4+ / 0-)
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      an 18 yr old male from enlisting rather than going to college, even if college were free. Sometimes people feel they have just had it with sitting in a classroom. I know I felt that way after high school, and almost enlisted in the Navy then, but the recruiter talked me out of it since I had prospects for getting a higher education. And, when I got out of college I did join the Navy, only with an education under my belt.  

      ::sigh:: Just because the military industrial complex needs cannon fodder is no good reason to set up our society to provide it. We can do better. I know we're on the same side here, winterbanyan.

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government is incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Sat Aug 08, 2009 at 08:26:30 AM PDT

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      •  I'm sure we are, Orinoco. (4+ / 0-)
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        I hope nobody misunderstands what I said.  I'm an ex-military wife and I have the highest regard for those who choose to serve.  My partner and my son are vets, and my nephew is even now in Marines.

        But there is a reason the military wants the young 'uns.  I just don't think we should manipulate young men and women into joining the military because they have no other option for education and/or healthcare, or even a job, which is what I think you are saying.

        If we want an all-volunteer service, then we shouldn't be applying economic pressures to force people to sign up.  And if the economic pressures can't be entirely removed, then there should be a "public service" option other than the military.

        "No man is my enemy, my own hands imprison me, love rescue me." -- Love Rescue Me/U2

        by winterbanyan on Sat Aug 08, 2009 at 08:44:16 AM PDT

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