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  •  Why not just remove the whole idea from the bill (1+ / 0-)
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    Sorry seniors, but since this is causing so much contoversy, the idea that you can have counseling to help you make medical decisions with your doctor will no longer be considered.

    Although you can still have consulations, you will have to pay for them yourself. Your family will be burdened with tough decisions and your final days on earth will (unless you dictate otherwise, at a cost)not be a peaceful journey.

    Let them win on this issue. I want public option. To guarantee insurance for so many people, I say if seniors are going to believe these lies, then they don't deserve the fight.

    Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

    by grannycarol on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 07:09:27 AM PDT

    •  Such counseling could be porvided (1+ / 0-)
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      elsewhere, such as through the Agnecies on Aging, by caseworkers.

      My family's work was done through hospital social workers. They are trained to handle sensitive issues such as laying bare the prognosis of a dying patient and cutting through the denial inevitable in all of us who don't want to face our mortality.

    •  This comment is outright despicible (0+ / 0-)

      I say if seniors are going to believe these lies, then they don't deserve the fight.

      "I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law" -Obama

      by heart of a quince on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 07:23:46 AM PDT

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    •  We have a long tradition of blaming the (0+ / 0-)

      victim of deception for being deceived.  It all started with Eve.  

      While pride in out intellectual acumen may lead us to buy into that rationalization, the truth is it lets deceivers off the hook.   Same with that free-market dictum, "buyer beware."

      That the object of an act is responsible for the act is typical of conservative thinking.
      Just so, the detainees in Guantanamo are responsible for their torture because they wouldn't talk.

      We ought not to give into the temptation to evade responsibility in this way.

      Not to mention that in this instance Republicans are adding deception on top of generating fear, since it is conservatives who insist on conditioning every public benefit on some deduction of individual rights.
      That's not how it's supposed to work.  The federal government is to deliver services equally, regardless of individual differences.  Which is, what's being objected to--equal protection, regardless of merit.  Protection from illness and injury is an entitlement--as is protection from enemy invasion or some calamity of nature.

      How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

      by hannah on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 07:57:00 AM PDT

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