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    I like to call it "the pre modern movement".

    I know that this sounds kinda "anti science" but not's about returning to faith and not being the literalist that we have today.

    Ironically, the funamentalist movement tries to argue against modernity by using modern tools.  The return I espouse is about returning to a greater use of allegory in search of greater "truths" than can be found in a strict, rigid literalist interpretation.

    It's quite a simple arguement and theology in reality.

    Jesus used parables.  Parables weren't literally true, but were figuratively true to point out a great truth.

    Just remember...people are always more important than ideas.

    by circuithead on Tue Nov 30, 2004 at 06:54:11 AM PST

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    •  Allegory was the earliest Christian method (none)
      of biblical interpretation, arising in the Hellenistic community in Alexandria.  The first to use it to great effect, the brilliant theologian Origen in the early third century, picked it up from the first-century Jewish philosopher Philo, who adapted Platonic philosophy to allegorize the Torah/Penteteuch (the first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures, i.e., the "books of Moses").

      Origen was more cautious in his use of Platonic philosophy than Philo, and, a century and a half later, the Cappadocian Fathers were even more cautious than Origen had been.  (Origen and some of his ideas were condemned in the mid-sixth century, but I have a special affection for him and don't think he should have been held to later standards of orthodoxy.)

      I always find it ironic -- and depressing -- that all these modern-day Christian fundamentalists who think Scripture is "self-interpreting" conveniently ignore the fact that the earliest Christians interpreted Scripture entirely differently than these self-righteous boobs do today.  And, in their ignorance and audacity, it doesn't seem to bother them at all to discount people like Irenaeus of Lyons or Origen, who were only two or three generations removed from Christ and his apostles themselves.  But, of course, these American fundamentalist Protestants living two thousand years later know better. <g>

      I do not suffer fools gladly

      by GreekGirl on Tue Nov 30, 2004 at 10:31:50 AM PST

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