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View Diary: Trippi Op-Ed in the WSJ: Yes. Yes. Yes! (276 comments)

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  •  I agree (none)
    I agree with your analysis:  I don't know if I support Trippi's version of the history, but his ideas for the future are dead on.  (Especially about growing organized labor in retail!)

    I probably should have been more critical of Trippi's Kerry bashing.  I thought Kerry was a better candidate, certainly better than Gore.

    Trippi convienently leaves out that the Republicans learned GOTV between 2000 and 2004.  That accounts for a lot of the new Bush votes.

    •  GOTV (none)
      Yes, that was a key factor.  Kerry didn't even open campaign offices in PA and OH until late summer or early fall.  One often overlooked factor by critics of Dean's "blowing through" $50 million is that as early as January he had campaign offices open in dozens of states.  If he had won the nomination, there might have been a much broader and more effective GOTV effort.
      •  Kerry had to spend (none)
        four months introducing himself to the electorate after his nomination. He was know as ABB not Kerry.
      •  The NYTimes article "Who Lost Ohio" (4.00)
        Made it known that Kerry's GOTV was awful.  I hate to use what I think is a David Brooks phrase, but Kerry GOTV was "outsourced" to ACT.  And the lack of coordination (necessary under the law) was deadly.

        My friends and I will all over PA on election day.  Some were with ACT.  I was with at least three different organizations under the "America Votes" umbrella, and they stuck me in an area that has a 90% turnout.  (I actually wound up canvassing the Democratic poll supervisor.  He was the one who told me that.)  I had to wonder why I wasn't somewhere else.

        Of course, my friends with ACT were working the same street as the Kerry people, so again, redundancy was an issue:

        Them:  Excuse me, sir, but did you vote today?
        Voter:  I just told you I did.
        Them:  Oh, I'm sorry, sir.  You must have told someone else with the Kerry campaign.
        Voter:  Who are you with, then?

        etc., etc., etc.

        Again, the diary that introduced, "Who Lost Ohio" covered a lot of this.

        •  Good for you for going! (none)
          Here in NY, we did a great job for Dean in late 2003/early 2004.  We got the 25,000 signatures to put him on the primary ballot with only volunteers.  For the general election, I felt that it would be a waste of time to work on registering voters, since NY was assured for Kerry.  Now that I see how Bush's popular vote "mandate" is working against us, I regret that decision.  It may have been different if Dean had been running.  

          I read the Matt Bai NY Times magazine article about the Bush GOTV effort in Ohio when it came out, early in the summer, I think.  At the time I felt a twinge of concern as I read about how they had a Tupperware-like pyramid operation going, with people expected to fill quotas of new registered Republicans each week.  And people were working in their own communities, keeping in contact with the voters.  This was covered well in the diary that you mentioned.

          Dean was, at least in the beginning, talking about a 50-state strategy.  I'm sure this would have changed to a certain extent, but he may have kept people motivated in both safe red and safe blue states.  

        •  yes (none)
          when i was doing GOTV, it seemed like all i got were hardcore dem neighborhoods.

          there seems to be an institutional fear of undecided / moderate  areas being canvassed.

          •  GOTV in Ohio (none)
            I live in a swing county in Ohio (Lorain) and I organized some of the GOTV canvassers in its largest cities. There were some problems but by and large we were far from the caricature that Bai portrayed in the Times.  I can't speak for elsewhere in Ohio, but in Lorain, where the lionshare of GOTV was done by the democrats and unions (and not the 527s), we increased Kerry's vote total 17,000 over Gore in 2000 and increased Kerry's margin over Bush by 5,000.

            Again, I wont speak for the rest of Ohio, but the current fascination w/527s ignores the fact that the Democrats in some places actually did a better job.  Not a perfect job, mind you.  In fact, I have plenty of critiques of what the Dems did here (maybe I'll post a diary on this later) but in our little corner of the state, the GOTV efforts of the Democrats (who were mostly local) was much better than that of ACT or Moveon's bussed in activists.  

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