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  •  GWB got many things (0+ / 0-)

    You list Social Security privatization and immigration reform as two spectacular failings and that is true. But look at how much GWB did do and as leader of his party, the laws that were brought forth were at his behest. How many vetoes did he make during his Presidency? Not many.

    He got his way because the Conservatives have an effective communications system and a system of discipline where the legislators by and large get with the program.

    Never mind that GWB was vile, vain, corrupt and lying, they did 8 years of damage with grotesque things like "clear skys initiative" and "healthy forests" which were neither.  

    There is no excuse that we have clear majorities in the Congress and have so much difficulty in getting this done and with maximum benefit to the People.

    --Country before party--

    by chipoliwog on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 12:12:06 PM PDT

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    •  He also got his way (1+ / 0-)
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      because "his way" was completely in sync with the most powerful voices in Washington.

      He did the bidding of the corporate lobbies.

      The importance of Social Security and immigration is that they're the only time he tried to buck the flow.

      In America, 60% of bankruptcies are because of medical bills, and 80% of those people had health insurance

      by sullivanst on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 12:19:47 PM PDT

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      •  Be like LBJ (0+ / 0-)

        He knew when subcomitteemen took a shit.

        --Country before party--

        by chipoliwog on Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 08:22:27 AM PDT

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        •  Thing is, I think Obama truly believes (0+ / 0-)

          the stuff about changing the tone in Washington. Obviously, that will be impossible to accomplish with the way the Republican party is intent on behaving...

          But going all LBJ would be the opposite of everything he ever said about how he was going to get stuff done.

          I'm still willing to let the process play out. Don't forget, we have all three House committees including the public option, as well as the Senate HELP committee. Pelosi's standing firm with the CPC, and the President's reiterating his insistence that cost control is a central pillar of reform, and that he believes the public option is the best way to do cost control. I have confidence that the conference report will include the public option. I have less confidence that the Senate will approve the report, but even there I see hope. It will be difficult for even Baucus to vote against the entire reform just based on the public option. Nelson's said he's open to voting for a bill that includes a PO. So has Snowe. I think we can get there, and I think the unions' threat to cut off all electoral support to Dems who oppose the public option is one that will have to be taken seriously, and in Baucus' case it's reinforced by some canny outreach to the Montana tribes.

          In America, 60% of bankruptcies are because of medical bills, and 80% of those people had health insurance

          by sullivanst on Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 09:11:46 AM PDT

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