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  •  The goal was 2 fold (6+ / 0-)

    to help out the car dealers and to get the old clunker "gas guzzlers" off of the road. I agree that there should have been provisions made for all cars possibly on a sliding scale. I would bet that the car companies had a say in what years and specifications to include in the cash for clunkers program. The ulitmate goal was to get more of the fuel efficient autos on the road.

    It is a shame that people that do not fit in the program are taking it personally.  

    •  sure get the average gas mileage up (0+ / 0-)

      can't do that very easily if people are trading in cars that get as good or better mileage--even if the trade ins are technically old and clunkers.

      Makes sense from the company's perspective.

      It is becoming increasingly apparent that some people owe Pelosi an apology

      by GeeBee on Wed Aug 19, 2009 at 06:49:23 PM PDT

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    •  BS...many of the [trades] are... (0+ / 0-)

      ...for bigger vehicles [sure more mpg barely] but in context of todays issues and efficiencies they are at the bottom. So it appears all this cash for clunkers program is doing is rewarding those that owned gasguzzlers of past with newer gasguzzlers only at steep discounts. It does tend to make you think wtf is going on with this administration...and thats from one who believes in this President...but I do wonder where is my prize.

      Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

      by kalihikane on Wed Aug 19, 2009 at 08:45:09 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, er, maybe not ... (1+ / 0-)
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        I thought the initial stats on the program said that people were getting more mileage savings than the creators of the program initially expected, with something like an average 10 mpg improvement (even though in some cases they weren't required to go up that much).

        And my brother the scientist tells me it's actually more advantageous to improve mileage a little on the lower end -- say, a 10mpg to a 20 mpg -- than to concentrate on a bigger jump on the higher end -- say, a 30 mpg to 50 mpg, that it's more important to get the very lowest of the low off the road, and a little improvement goes a long way. Here's a blog that explains the scientific rationale, all kinds of geeky goodness like linear vs. curved functions that goes way over my techno-challenged head. But for those who get off on this stuff:

        •  Oh you mean like the GM... (0+ / 0-)

          ...silverado truck that had mpg of 18 but the newer version went to an incredible 21mpg. I dont know where you get these 10mpg differentials from but in my mind that could only happen if they went to a car from a truck because most trucks hiway mpg were about 15-18 so to get 10mpg increase you need hiway mpg 25-28...I dont think so.

          Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

          by kalihikane on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 02:05:05 PM PDT

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    •  I thought I heard somewhere that your (0+ / 0-)

      clunker had to be at least 9 years old, perhaps the Saturn owner's vechile was not that old. There needs to be some guidelines and the dealers who want in must adhere to those rules.

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