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  •  But Romney care is Obama's model: (5+ / 0-)

    force everyone to buy defective policies, underfund the poor, etc.

    •  Oh brother! (7+ / 0-)

      Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. Blaise Pascal

      by Kitty on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 08:26:47 AM PDT

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      •  who knew that so many people (4+ / 0-)
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        on DKos disliked Obama this much?  

        Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

        by SottoVoce on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 08:27:30 AM PDT

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        •  It's not a question of disliking Obama (3+ / 0-)
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          It's a question of disliking how he's handling healthcare.

          This isn't rocket science. When Obama does the right thing, he deserves to be praised. When he does the wrong thing, he deserves to be criticized.

          I like him a little bit more when he does well; I like him a little less when he doesn't.

          Policies that were wrong under George W. Bush are no less wrong because Barack Obama is in the White House. - Bob Herbert

          by GreenSooner on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 08:29:43 AM PDT

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          •  I'd like for him to lead. (0+ / 0-)

            He certainly isn't constitutionally obligated to dictate policy to congress, but he could stop being so open to obvious BS (co-ops) and demand merely what people elected him to demand: single-payerI meanPublic Option.

            What he's doing is politics. It's annoying, but realistically I guess it's what you have to do when you never fully spent time hammering together a comprehensive strategy on healthcare reform implementation.

            I saw this coming when I realized he was dangerously understudied on healthcare -- Hillary Clinton and that creep edwards were both well-versed in nuancing healthcare statements. Obama stuck his finger in the wind.

            I like Obama, both as a human being and a president. But he does need to give the White House some sort of direction. I don't see the ineffective communication as killing the drive to health reform, it's just a bunch of rookie mistakes. But still, would be nice if they could hammer something together.

            "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

            by sapper on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 08:54:57 AM PDT

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      •  Problems with Mass plan: (3+ / 0-)
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        No cost controls ('cause the health care industries didn't want them) and no public option.

        Obama has no model. The WH hasn't proposed a plan.

        But the Mass plan falls inside their definition of what's acceptable. And it shouldn't be.

        Policies that were wrong under George W. Bush are no less wrong because Barack Obama is in the White House. - Bob Herbert

        by GreenSooner on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 08:28:27 AM PDT

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        •  Correct--- (3+ / 0-)
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          But the Mass plan falls inside their definition of what's acceptable. And it shouldn't be.

          Everyone has insurance; good.  Insurance companies not controlled---bad!!

          •  I wonder if that's the strategy (0+ / 0-)

            the White House adopted. That is, it's not Obama's job to shape out the plan, but it's Obama's job to sign it.

            The White House ought to ditch that strategy and not outrightly go with the Clintonian Strategy of concrete proposals, but at least provide some base on which to shape the bill.

            Something simple. Regulate insurance coverage. Expand on one of the already present government health insurance vehicles, either Medicare or Medicaid, offer universal coverage to lower income people. Allow the government to negotiate prices with drug companies.

            See? I did it. Why can't Obama?

            Or, maybe outline a platform from a moral perspective: Again, regulate the insurance companies -- keep them from dropping coverage at will; do anything to rebuild the doctor-patient relationship, to include getting doctors to refocus on being doctors and not so much medicine entrepreneurs.

            See again, Mr. Obama? I just laid out another plan. They may be misguided and wrong -- I'm no expert -- but then, neither are you.

            "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

            by sapper on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 09:02:22 AM PDT

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        •  I'm not understanding something.. (2+ / 0-)
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          what does a 'plan' mean? Other than the points Obama has reiterated for months about what he wants to see in a Health Care bill. Should the White House write the legislation?

          •  You're right. (0+ / 0-)

            I certainly don't think he should write the legislation, but the reason that people don't know what to think of health reform (other than it's a super reason to bring a gun and a dipshit sign to a town-hall meeting) because the president is waffling the message.

            Single-Payer? Well, he advocated it as an Illinois state senator running for the US Senate, but not anymore.

            Public option? Well, yes, he ran for president on this idea and won, and thought it was the only way to keep insurance companies honest ... until a week ago.

            Universal coverage?
            Mandatory enrollment? He never was for this, but felt recently that it might happen, and then he sort of tailed off on this idea, to the tune of him supporting a congressional effort that would leave something like 20 million people uncovered.

            At a time when Health care reform could really, REALLY use an interpreter, the White House has been somewhat silent, or distributive of mixed messages that whisper into pundits ears but tell nothing to the people who really need a good, effective healthcare plan.

            "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

            by sapper on Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 09:07:47 AM PDT

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            •  I have found.. (0+ / 0-)

              that he has said the same thing consistently.  He supports a public option...he actually supports universal health care, but thinks it would take several steps..and I would imagine that he is actually looking for legislation that could be passed. So he supports a private/public plan. I hope that the Democrats can trade off what is necessary in order to get a bill that contains what the President has reiterated he wants to see, and one that can get passed. I have no idea how this legislation will play out, and what will be in the final bill, but who does? I am fortunate that my representatives all support the public option..but unfortunately one of them is Senator Kennedy.

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