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  •  Just for practice... (none)
    ... why should non Washingtonian Dem's care if there's a D in Olympia?
    •  why not? (none)
      I care that, say, Craig Benson will soon be evicted from the State House in Concord and that Brian Schweitzer will soon take the reins in Helena.

      While she ran a terrible campaign and would likely be a timid governor like Gary Locke, Christine Gregoire would not be involved in an out-and-out effort to gut government in Olympia (as stealth-wingnut and social reactionary Rossi would want to do).  

      There is much that is good and just and meaningful and right about government, much that will only really be carried out on a sufficiently-wide scale by an institution that is cognizant of the value of the common good.  Notwithstanding the pathetic bleatings of the right, government is worthwhile.

      That said, it matters to every one of us, no matter where we reside, that governments retain the wherewithal to deal with these vital social responsibilities.  Democrats do still recognize that.

      You're only young once, but you can be immature forever -- Larry Andersen

      by N in Seattle on Wed Dec 01, 2004 at 05:00:01 PM PST

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      •  Well said!!! (none)
        The basis premise of society is that it exists for the common good.

        Current events prove that Democratic/Progressive governments are far more committed to that purpose than r/w's - who are clearly dedicated to promoting special interests.

        Any gains anywhere therefore promote the common good and actively hold back special interests which undermine that basic purpose.

        Theory is when we know everything and nothing works. Practice is when everything works and nobody knows why. (Einstein)

        by CodeTalker on Wed Dec 01, 2004 at 08:28:22 PM PST

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        •  thanx (none)
          I've been pushing the common good theme for quite some time now.  Before Trippi and Dean actually began to think they could win, and "refocused" their message, Howard often spoke in those terms ... which is one of the reasons I found him such a compelling candidate.  I did and still do believe that the real Howard Dean thinks very much along those lines.

          I wish I had the talent to refine this theme into a political message.  I still have faith (or is it hope?) that Americans retain enough human and social decency that they would respond to a well-articulated message of people sharing responsibility for the good of our society through governmental action and support.

          You're only young once, but you can be immature forever -- Larry Andersen

          by N in Seattle on Wed Dec 01, 2004 at 09:42:56 PM PST

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          •  Me too (none)
            Am trying to articulate that also. Common good is the root of common sense for a healthy society. It's such a basic tenet that almost any policy can be examined in those terms. Personally, I think it's the "common ground" we're all looking for - but how to espouse it?

            I also believe that we retain the decency to respond to such a message; it seems to me that we have a greater "silent majority" than ever before, but they just got either seduced by Bush's "everyman" or lulled by Kerry's "drone", and were never motivated enough to take a more active stand.

            Now, the mood of almost everyone I talk to has either undertones of worry about the direction we're headed, or arrogance/bigotry. One can be appealed to, the other cannot. In everyone who worries, there is a real issue, some touchstone that brings out a desire to make things better - and always, always, concern about others they know who are having a rough time, and need help.

            It's these people we need to reach. They understand but cannot articulate, or are frustrated by what they see as being disconnected from a system that does not take them into account; they need only an appeal that speaks to THEM, to THEIR fears and THEIR hopes.

            I don't know if we can do this by writing, but I'm trying to "capture" it. I'm convinced appeals for common good are the kind of thing that needs to be spread from person to person. Has that been your experience?

            Theory is when we know everything and nothing works. Practice is when everything works and nobody knows why. (Einstein)

            by CodeTalker on Wed Dec 01, 2004 at 10:54:52 PM PST

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          •  Thanks, but... (none)
            ...I still have yet to see this on the front page, which I'm baffled by.

            My guess is that it's not a big enough priority in the dkos community. How do we change that?

            "Common Good" is a start. Gubernatorial opposition to radical neocon Constitutional amendments is another benefit. How else can we get them to care?

            I'm south of the river in PDX and see this as very important, but purely for partisan reasons. Your analyses are very insightful and I'd like to see a bigger call to action.  

            •  hmmm (none)
              dennis, you're combining (at least) two thoughts in this comment -- updates on the WA gov race, and articulating Democratic principles in a resonant manner.

              If you don't mind, I'll leave the latter aside for the moment.  It would probably take a front-page essay written by Markos or some other luminary to draw a lot of attention.  As I said, I'm struggling to find the words (the framing, if you will) to explicate these thoughts in a compelling way.

              As for the WA gov updates, I thank you for your kind words and your attention.  Interest in them blows hot and cold.  Yesterday, we did see two related diaries (SusanHu and kt-somethingorother) that made it to Recommended status, and the latter even got promoted to the front page.  They concentrated on the fundraising-style question, probably more newsworthy than a several-days-late wrapup of the first recount.  SusanHu did her best to "promote" my wrapup, and in the end she got the leg up instead of me.  

              There are some tricks and strategies that can help one get enough recommendations to hit the bigtime.  By the time my wrapup received its 20th recommendation (I think that's a "magic number"), it had long-since scrolled off anyone's list of recent diaries.  So maybe I posted at the wrong time, during a rush of diaries.

              In any case, I suspect that one or two of my reports while the hand recount progresses will strike enough fancies to gain wider view.  By now, I do have something of a "franchise" on the topic, and there's some buzz (or maybe I mean a low-level hum) of anticipation about them.  I'm not sure I'd want that much more attention...

              You're only young once, but you can be immature forever -- Larry Andersen

              by N in Seattle on Thu Dec 02, 2004 at 10:46:37 AM PST

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