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  •  I'm sorry (2+ / 0-)
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    Cool Blue Reason, GATXER

    Are you advocating the career attorneys hired during  Rove's tenure, or just the political appointees?

    If it's the former...um, no.

    I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

    by The Navigator on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 11:37:53 AM PDT

    •  Please Explain (1+ / 0-)
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      3goldens

      Under the Bush administration there was a difference?  From what I can tell, all "career" attorneys were political appointees.  It was one of the poisons endemic to the Rovian system.  In truth, Obama should have demanded the resignation of everybody in the DoJ to weed out the unqualified.  Just look at all of the failed high profile cases we have experienced in the last six months from the DoJ because of the incompetents Bush and his posse stuffed into the DoJ.  Sluice them all out of there.

      "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

      by PrahaPartizan on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 11:49:45 AM PDT

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      •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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        The difference is that it's  very difficult to summarily fire career employees.  As it should be, especially in DOJ.

        If you think that every administration, including this one, does not try to get career employees in place who are in political agreement, you are quite naive. That doesn't mean you can fire them at will.

        Political appointees are a different matter, and can be dismissed w/o cause.  I find it interesting that everyone was up in arms  when political appointees at justice got dismissed for political reasons, but now want political appointees fired for...political reasons.

        Ah...hypocrisy. It goes so well with politics.

        I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

        by The Navigator on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 11:57:51 AM PDT

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        •  Actually, No (6+ / 0-)

          What people want is the removal of all the Bush political appointees who remain in DoJ, and that includes the prosecutors who are customarily expected to resign with each new administration. A bonus IMO would be the replacement of career hires who were politically motivated due to Roves corruption of the DoJ with non-politically motivated career hires.

          I'm sure you're intelligent enough to understand the difference in motivation between one who would politicize and one who would seek to de-politicize, something that cannot be accomplished without removal of those who were part of the politicization.

          •  (sigh) (0+ / 0-)

            What people want is the removal of all the Bush political appointees who remain in DoJ

            But when the Bush people  wanted the removal of all the Clinton political appointees (which actually wasn't  true), that was wrong, but now it's OK?

            I agree that political appointees can be removed when a new administration comes in, no questions asked. It's OK now, and it was OK then.

            Career employees are a different matter, however.  

            And again, you think that removing the Bush era career employees is "de-politiclization", what all it is is putting in new career employees that agree with the new administration.  

            What you're saying is:

            Bush DOJ: Evil, wants to politicize the agency
            Obama DOJ:  Knights in shining armor. Don't care about getting their people in at all, just want justice.

            Are you really that naive?

            Again, hypocrisy, and I'm sorry you're not "intelligent enough" (to use your charming phrase) to see that.

            I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

            by The Navigator on Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 02:42:17 PM PDT

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            •  Do you realize (1+ / 0-)
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              Go Kid Hugo

              that for the first time Bush used political litmus tests against career hires? Do you realize Monica Goodling claims she took an oath personally to Bush and not the Constitution? Are you aware of the Liberty University "graduates" hired into career positions. Over a hundred I belief from a non-accredited far right wing "religious" institution?

              This is the joke of a DOJ, the Shitboy was putting together, Karl. But then you knew that didn't you.

              I'm only surprised your ID isn't "The Architect".

              "Much law, but little justice": Proverb

              by Dave925 on Fri Aug 28, 2009 at 09:45:31 AM PDT

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