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  •  One more thing.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Wolf Of Aquarius

    This is a Democratic blog.  

    You want to tout third Party, go elsewhere.

    Now you get the egg.

    Silence is the enemy - Green Day 4330+ dead - Bring them home

    by Miss Blue on Sun Aug 30, 2009 at 04:04:08 PM PDT

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    •  n/t (3+ / 0-)
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      cdreid, pHunbalanced, MixedContent

      Geeze, talk about abusing the negative rating system. It annoys me to see people do that to other posters just because they disagree with them, strikes me as very Republican-esque.

    •  Sorry, sorry (3+ / 0-)
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      cdreid, pHunbalanced, MixedContent

      Didn't know this was a DLC-only blog.  I got it all backwards!  Silly silly me.  It's PARTY before COUNTRY... did I get it right this time?

      Competitive sport has made America stupid.

    •  Semi-OT: from The Exegesis of Troll-Rating (3+ / 0-)
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      cdreid, pHunbalanced, MixedContent

      (emphasis mine)

      To Troll Rate something has exactly one meaning. When you Troll Rate something, as a trusted user, you are stating that the comment should be made invisible to all site users. You're saying that the comment is so bad -- so disruptive or damaging to the community -- that it isn't worth even a debate, but should be deleted from the discussion as being simply inflammatory, simply off-topic, or simply a lie. Remember that, because that is the only use of the troll rating. It is an editorial vote to delete a comment from the conversation. Conversely, there is one particular reason troll ratings should never be used: to express disagreement with a poster's opinion.

      Oh, and I couldn't find any place in the FAQ or About dKos where any party support was laid down.

      Clearly you are on the side of the corporatists.  Enjoy your football game.

      •  Whoops, my mistake (1+ / 0-)
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        pHunbalanced

        It sure is a Democratic blog.  Still I don't see that as a justification for troll-rating.  Back to your football game.

      •  Actually... (1+ / 0-)
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        pHunbalanced

        it is pretty clear from the FAQ section, referencing a diary Markos wrote back in 2004.

        This is a Democratic blog, a partisan blog. One that recognizes that Democrats run from left to right on the ideological spectrum, and yet we're all still in this fight together.

        We happily embrace centrists like NDN's Simon Rosenberg and Howard Dean, conservatives like Martin Frost and Brad Carson, and liberals like John Kerry and Barack Obama.

        Liberal? Yeah, we're around here and we're proud. But it's not a liberal blog. It's a Democratic blog with one goal in mind: electoral victory.

        And since we haven't gotten any of that from the current crew, we're one more thing: a reform blog.

        The battle for the party is not an ideological battle. It's one between establishment and anti-establishment factions. And as I've said a million times, the status quo is untenable.

        But it has nothing to do with ideology, and those who continue painting the battle in those colors is nothing more than a dishonest shill in the best tradition of Karl Rove and gang.

        •  More Democrats (1+ / 0-)
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          then better Democrats. One of Markos' favorite sayings. Everyone knows what that's shorthand for. More freaking liberal Democrats! I remember the aforementioned statement from Markos very clearly. It came off as well, quite political of him. But does anyone really believe that bullshit? How long are we going to carry on with this fiction? The big tent doesn't work. It never has worked, and if more people knew their Democratic Party history they would recognize this salient fact-the entire legacy of the Democratic Party is not the byproduct of the Big Tent, it was done in spite of the Big Tent!

          Minimum wage, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, collective bargaining, TVA, rural electrification, water reclamation, financial regulation, Fannie and Freddie (pre-deregulation), FHA, Pell Grants and student loans, Food Stamps, Aid to Dependent Children, federalization of primary and secondary education funding, fuel efficiency standards, truth-in-lending, Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Open Housing, highway safety regs, Clean Water, NEPA, Wilderness Act, Wild and Scenic Rivers, G.I. Bill, almost the entire infrastructure of our parks and national forests, HUD, etc. What do they all have in common? They became a reality ONLY because there were enough progressives and liberals in Congress for about 9-short years (first 5 years of the New Deal and 4-years of the Great Society) to defeat the Big Tent paralysis that has been the status quo in the Democratic Party since Carter's term.  

          Instead of focusing on pollster speak, trying to find statistical reasons why the polls might not be accurate, why don't we acknowledge the very real fact that there are some very displeased Democratic partisans who are fed up with what's going on. These polls reflect a growing disenchantment with the president and his minions in Congress. And please don't tell us that health care is fraught with difficulty and it takes time. That is nonsense. The Johnson administration managed to get through Congress not one or two controversial measures, but a whole litany of them in quick succession. Of course the party isn't anywhere near as coherent know as it was then, and everyone knows it's a problem that needs to be addressed. Unfortunately, singing that we're the party of John Kerry AND Brad Carson isn't the solution, it is the problem.

        •  If we lose in 2010 (0+ / 0-)

          Wow, I should post more like the above(unfortunately I don't check my old posts very often). It seems to have caused fireworks. Here's something to chew on, Green Party, Green Party, Green Party, etc. Though I've never before voted for the Green Party nor paid all that much attention to it, given the vitriolic response from the Party loyalists, who obviously put party before policy, (sort of like the Repugs)I wonder how far that would go. Party before country? If the Democratic Party supports continued presence in Iraq and supports increasing presence in Afghanistan,(though they may or may not) and I believe that is as bad as continuing the war in Afghanistan/Iraq, then according to idiot party first posters(and the mission statement) I must support these Democrats regardless? I think not. Listen to the Presidents speech on Wed. There's a good chance it will be an eloquent waffle with little or no reference to the Public Option as we've now switched our grovelling from Grassley to Snowe. And all us actual progressives(as opposed to Democrats) can go to hell under the theory we have no other place to go.

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