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  •  As a poor uninsured person (1+ / 0-)
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    who recently needed surgery I wish they'd made that deal.

    •  As a person who can barely... (1+ / 0-)
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      afford to pay for health insurance that barely covers everything I need (including surgery I'll be having this winter or fall). I'm not sure it ultimately would have have succeeded even if the bill had passed.

      Employer-based health insurance has proved to be an albatross to this nation economically. You are working under the assumption that every business would have been able to cover their employees. I doubt that. My guess, would be that many employers would have simply fired those employees who became ill, to avoid having to pay for them.

      I defy the tyranny of precedent. I cannot afford the luxury of a closed mind. I go for anything new that might improve the past. ~ Clara Barton

      by AuroraDawn on Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 10:25:16 AM PDT

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      •  I should have added that there are employers who. (0+ / 0-)

        already do fired employees who get sick. Surely you have read stories about this? I suppose they could try to sue, but that won't help them immediately, and there is no guarantee they would win such a lawsuit. Ted, other liberals, and the Unions, all had good reason to fear that Nixon's healthcare plan would ultimately fail to cover many Americans, let alone all Americans.

        I defy the tyranny of precedent. I cannot afford the luxury of a closed mind. I go for anything new that might improve the past. ~ Clara Barton

        by AuroraDawn on Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 10:36:30 AM PDT

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      •  Fair enough, but getting a foot in the door (1+ / 0-)
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        40 years ago would've helped.  Getting nothing doesn't help anything.  It just doesn't.

        •  It might have... (0+ / 0-)

          It's hard to say how well the plan would have succeeded and how many people would have been covered, let alone sufficiently covered. My family had employer-based insurance and went completely bankrupt paying for my and my mother's medical bills.

          As for getting "nothing," with regard to the current healthcare debate, a watered-down bill bound to fail is "nothing" in my book. It can't be considered "something" unless it will actually help people. Co-ops won't help anyone, because they wouldn't have enough members to compete with health insurance companies. They would be swallowed up like BC/BS was. A bill only counts as a foot in the door if it's effective. Failed legislation is worthless.

          I defy the tyranny of precedent. I cannot afford the luxury of a closed mind. I go for anything new that might improve the past. ~ Clara Barton

          by AuroraDawn on Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 10:47:16 AM PDT

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          •  For one thing the concept that HC is a right (0+ / 0-)

            would have already spent 40 years in the public consciousness.  Same this time if we can't get a PO.  The refusal style of politics doesn't work that well without the masses supporting it.  We haven't got the masses with us (different subject, that).

            •  Actually, the masses do support a PO... (1+ / 0-)
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              Poll after poll has reflected this. Especially, when people actually bother to explain to them what a PO is. If we don't get a public option it won't be because people don't want one, it will be because Congress is too corrupt to support one.  

              I defy the tyranny of precedent. I cannot afford the luxury of a closed mind. I go for anything new that might improve the past. ~ Clara Barton

              by AuroraDawn on Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 10:59:12 AM PDT

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