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  •  history says they STOLE that one. (0+ / 0-)

    Which does not prove that you CAN'T get rid of them at the ballot box.  

    •  Don't you mean the Gore/Bush Election? (1+ / 0-)
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      Some claim Kerry was robbed but have far less of a case.

      Incumbents have a powerful advantage.

      Best,  Terry

      •  Both. (1+ / 0-)
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        2004 was the year of Diebold.  

        Voting machines that had consistent "errors" flipping the votes to Bush.  

        If those were truly errors, they would be "normally distributed."  They were not.  Independent nonpartisan statisticians studied this and concluded, in a lengthy report with all of the data and the math spelled out, that the probability of those "errors" being mere "errors" rather than deliberate tampering, was on the order of millions to one against.  

        By analogy, if you flip a coin 100 times, it should come up heads 50 times and tails 50 times.  If it comes up heads 60 times, and does that for every series of 100 flips, then either a) you're doing it with PK and should be able to do the same thing to a physical random number generator at a distance, or b) the coin has been tampered with.

        I somehow doubt the Republicans were so psychic that they flipped those votes with their minds.  

        •  My Son Got To Be A Poll Watcher in Chicago (0+ / 0-)

          for the Progressive Party when a female roommate hired for the task was roughed up by Daly's boys.

          At the time Pat didn't give a damn one way or another about politics but got converted.

          Somehow a heavyweight martial arts expert was able to communicate more effectively than a South American girl in a hispanic district.  

          The majority for the Daly candidate was down noticeably despite the truckloads of zombies from nursing homes.

          Perhaps the Dalys dispensed with the trucking in previous elections.

          I am familiar with the fortuitous flipping of votes in Ohio but I gathered it wasn't likely needed even without the element of chance weighing against Kerry.

          Same as in Chicago in other elections.

          Best,  Terry

          •  when the flipped votes were subtracted.... (0+ / 0-)

            ..and other truly blatant shenanegans were taken out of the picture...

            ...Kerry won.  

            You can probably still find the statisticians' reports on this stuff if you want to take the time to keyword search for them.  

            Hard to believe we had two stolen elections in a row, but the numbers don't lie.   Those bastards were out for a thousand-year reich, and the only thing that stopped them was Bush's own stellar incompetence.  We may not be so lucky next time.  Eternal vigilance really is the price of freedom.  

            Excellent re. your son in Czechago.  Interesting that Daly trucked 'em in from nursing homes.  Ahh, for the good old days when stealing elections was so obvious, compared to today with the damn bits & bytes.  

      •  Either way... (0+ / 0-)

        It doesn't matter why we can't vote them out of office. The fact remains that we can't.

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