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  •  The system needs to change. (2+ / 0-)
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    With limited exceptions (I'm looking at you, Teddy) the more senior a Senator, the more captured he is by corporate interests.

    We need to shake things up, get some young idealists in these positions from time to time.

    Afflicted with post-partisan depression.

    by tomjones on Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 01:55:42 PM PDT

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    •  there is a downside to pitching it... (3+ / 0-)
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      cdreid, Superribbie, tomjones

      ...when you have a caucus that's diverse in terms of race, gender, etc., doing things entirely by seniority removes any questions about racism, sexism, etc. in the assignment of posts.

      Prison rape is not funny.

      by social democrat on Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 02:04:16 PM PDT

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      •  Ya because (1+ / 0-)
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        we can be thankful for how thats worked out. With 82 white guys (average senators age approx e 61.7) , 16 females (over 50% of the US workforce is female..) and the whopping 2 hispanic senators..  its definitely worth sacrificing ability, leadership, and ethics in favor of seniority to maintain the absolute lack of inequality of minorities and women in the senate this brilliant system has perpetuated.

        •  not the whole senate (0+ / 0-)

          In the Senate, only the Democratic caucus goes exclusively by seniority.

          The Republican caucus elects and term-limits their chair-holders.

          I really wouldn't draw any conclusions about which system produces higher-quality leadership or a more diverse caucus on that basis, though.

          I have seen it argued, persuasively, that the Republican system produces a more disciplined caucus, since under the Democratic system you can't hold someone's committee chair over their head -- they get the chair if they served their time, end of story.

          I didn't mean to imply that the Dems' system is without a downside. Just that it has this one particular upside that is easily overlooked.

          Prison rape is not funny.

          by social democrat on Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 06:47:51 PM PDT

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