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  •  Yes, but I meant he was (2+ / 0-)
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    clearly siding with Baucus over liberals in Congress  

    I actually think the hobbled PO will pass, and then everyone will cheer.  But it's a total fantasy that the program in legislation is a viable alternative to private insurance.  Somebody called it leper insurance.  

    Medicare for All is Fiscal Responsibility

    by masslib on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 10:13:40 PM PDT

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    •  OK -- agreed (5+ / 0-)

      Yes, I was surprised how much of an endorsement it was.  I think it was the president saying, "I will sign anything that the Senate and House agrees on."

      For the record, I don't support the public option because I think it is a waste of money, time and energy when Medicare is already there and waiting to be opened up.  The PO will not come online until 2013 and require a new agency and regulatory structure.  I do not understand why progressives have staked their hopes on the PO.

      •  Totally agree. (3+ / 0-)

        The progressives got rolled.  They are so invested in the PO they can not see the entire reform effort has moved from large government program to small government regulatory role.  It's crazy.

        Medicare for All is Fiscal Responsibility

        by masslib on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 10:20:41 PM PDT

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      •  It was the progressive compromise (3+ / 0-)

        They were told single payer was too crazy. So because they, the CPC, didn't want to come off as cRaZy far leftists, settled for this PO idea assuming it'd lead the way to a single payer system, or a mixed system with most of the population eventually on public insurance, some having private insurance as a supplement to cover a few additional things.

        It seems foolish now considering the "public option" has been twisted into a measly safety net fall back for the most extreme cases the private insurance companies don't want to touch.

        "All [US govt model based countries], without exception, have succumbed to the nightmare [of breakdown] one time or another, often repeatedly." - Bruce Ackerman

        by PoxOnYou on Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 10:55:21 PM PDT

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