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  •  Making it illegal will (2+ / 0-)
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    give some people pause, before getting into a life of no return. Which is a good thing.

    •  if they had legal recourse maybe there WOULD (0+ / 0-)

      be some return. Which they would have more of if we didn't out-and-out ban prostitution.

    •  "A Life of No Return" (2+ / 0-)
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      Hahahaha!!!! I've known plenty of folks who've traded sex for money for a few years and then moved on to other more legitimate careers. Do you write Victorian novels in your spare time?  

      •  Rupert Everett, for example (0+ / 0-)

        He's not shy about his former work.  It didn't interfere with his success.

      •  My step sister worked a year in Nevada, (2+ / 0-)
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        paid for six years of college with what she saved.

        For the last 25 years, she's been a well respected professional, and no one has any idea what she used to do outside of her family.

        She's the only 7th grade drop-out with a GED and a Masters that I know.

        Me, I find the whole pay cash for sex thing kinda icky - I've always prefered to pay for sex with long lasting emotional damage.

        However, to each their own.  My personal asthetic preference is no basis for legislation.

        Incremental measures won't suffice anymore. Sen. Kennedy - July 18, 2009

        by JesseCW on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 03:37:08 PM PDT

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        •  A little levity in an otherwise contentious diary (0+ / 0-)

          I've always prefered to pay for sex with long lasting emotional damage.

          That's really pretty funny!  Thanks for the laugh

          "The red is going out. It's getting more bluer."

          by ivorybill on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 03:45:17 PM PDT

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        •  Brilliant. Hahaha!!! (0+ / 0-)

          We all pay one way or another. Kudos to your step-sister for having the perserverence to get the life she wanted.

        •  Is she ashamed of her legal profession (1+ / 0-)
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          "and no one has any idea what she used to do outside of her family"

          I wonder why she dosn't show pride in her former  profession?

          •  Oh. You again. (2+ / 0-)
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            How goes things in the "I'm incapable of understanding anything but I feel intensely about it anyway" world?

            •  Well, is she or is she not proud? (1+ / 0-)
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              •  Not everyone need be particularly... (1+ / 0-)
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                ..."proud" of everything that they've done in life. Not everyone has been fortunate enough to have the apparently exemplary and utterly blameless life which you have led. You keep coming back to these persnickity details as if they somehow prove your assertions. They don't. They simply amplify your inability to debate a topic intelligently or respectfully. I really hope that someday you're able to adopt a more compassionate element into your philosophical moralizing. Humanity is varied and not everyone will conform to your absolutist ideal of how society operates. I've learned already that you'll just continue asking this useless question and smugly congratulating yourself in the belief that you've trumped the argument, but you haven't. And you never will. Your grade school theatrics will doom you to being ignored by people interested in a spirited conversation about certain subjects. If you believe you have a relevant point to make, do a little work on your communication skills. Peace out.  

                •  Just as I thought. (1+ / 0-)
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                  you are well aware that prostitution is demeaning to women. Your words show that you really feel they must hide this as shameful.

                  Having two daughters myself, I am very compassionate to the well being of women. Keeping prostitution illegal will contribute to their well being.

                  •  I certainly hope that the two girls who have (1+ / 0-)
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                    had the staggering misfortune of being fathered by a creature like you never make the mistake of being entirely honest with you about their lives, unless they enjoy being called whores.

                    Someone who uses terms like that isn't someone who care deeply about women - it's some whose trunk should routinely be checked by the police for duct tape and fibers.

                    Incremental measures won't suffice anymore. Sen. Kennedy - July 18, 2009

                    by JesseCW on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 11:50:54 PM PDT

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                    •  Please explaun why you believe it (1+ / 0-)
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                      would be a bad thing for my daughters to be called whores.

                      You can't do this, and at the same time say it should be a viable and respectable profession now can you?

                      Your conundrum is understandable.

                      By the way, my comfory with the word "whore" in this forum came from the ease which which the pro-prostitution participants were using the word themselves with such pride.  Why is it suddenly a taboo word in the very same forum?

                  •  You don't know me from a hole in the wall. (1+ / 0-)
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                    And there's no earthly reason for you to pay the slightest attention to any advice I might offer you. But I feel compelled to get personal with you here. I cannot conceive of how any parent can equate the protection of his daughters and prostitution, legal or not. Seriously, had you been able to provide a coherent narrative in our little disagreement perhaps I wouldn't be feeling this anxiety. But your contentions were flawed logically and I have to point out to you that I just don't think it's normal for someone to envision ANY KIND OF CONNECTION between their female children and sex workers. I said it in jest during our exchanges but now I truly mean it. Talk to somebody. Please get some kind of counselling. There is, and never will be, any threat to the well-being of your daughters if prostitution were to be decriminalized. None. Ever. There is no possibility on earth that either of your two daughters will ever come to harm by a circumstance far far removed from their actual lives. I'm begging you as a fellow human being, seek out some psychological assistance. Look back on what you've written these past few days. No one else in any of these threads conflates their children and whores. Nobody. Because that kind of thought shouldn't even arise in any parent's mind.  

          •  It should only be legal for people to do things (0+ / 0-)

            they're proud of?

            No more pseudoyms for screenwriters?

            Incremental measures won't suffice anymore. Sen. Kennedy - July 18, 2009

            by JesseCW on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 06:15:03 PM PDT

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            •  This former legal whore was (1+ / 0-)
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              introduced just to be an example that there is no long term damage to being a whore.  The truth about how one really feels comes through when one is not noticing.

              The statement "and no one has any idea what she used to do outside of her family" is more telling about how the narator feels about it than how the whore feels about it.

              The narrator has no idea who knows and who does not know that she was a whore, she herself, dosn't know who her customers may have told or not told.  It's a small world.

              The narrator wants to prove how well adjusted the whore is today and the statement was an attempt to cover the shame and nakedness of his/her stepsister's former life.

    •  Uh....what? (1+ / 0-)
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      Do you really think anyone in the history of the world has ever thought to themselves -

      "I would go turn a few tricks on Sunset Blvd, but, gosh darn it, it's illegal so I won't"?

      No doubt, it may disuade a few people who would otherwise work as "escorts"....but it doesn't stop anyone desperate enough to work the street.

      Incremental measures won't suffice anymore. Sen. Kennedy - July 18, 2009

      by JesseCW on Thu Sep 17, 2009 at 03:30:09 PM PDT

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