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  •  Obama won with 53% of the vote (14+ / 0-)

    last time i recalled. Having a 55% fav rating just shows the people who didn't vote for you don't like you. When Obama starts losing those who voted for his then i would worry.

    I like the fact that the GOP and the delusional MSM are predicting big gains, when it doesn't happen we can all LOL

    •  I'm laughing already (11+ / 0-)

      Too many in the media seem to lust for a "GOP resurgent" storyline that simply isn't happening.

    •  It was 54% (2+ / 0-)
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      blueyedace2, 57andFemale

      I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. (John Cage)

      by dotalbon on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 08:57:16 AM PDT

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    •  They Forget the GOP has No Leadership. (2+ / 0-)
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      Hard to win when there is no Newt Gingrich to rally "teh stoopid."

      Note to Tea-baggers: Crazy isn't a valid counter-argument!

      by kefauver on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 08:58:06 AM PDT

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      •  I'm willing to bet... (1+ / 0-)
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        that most Limbaugh listeners only vote every four years.

        The lesson of that history is that you must not despair, that if you are right, and you persist, things will change. -Howard Zinn

        by blueyedace2 on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 09:06:49 AM PDT

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        •  It's Possible. (1+ / 0-)
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          But more importantly, the Repubs are in such disarray right now, I doubt they gain that many seats in 2010. Minority Leader Boehner is at 14% favorability. OUCH!

          Note to Tea-baggers: Crazy isn't a valid counter-argument!

          by kefauver on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 09:11:41 AM PDT

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          •  It would take an epic fail on the Dems' part. (1+ / 0-)
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            As others have mentioned, mandates without PO would do it.  I'd veto it in the Rose Garden if I were the President.  It's just so stupid, I doubt that scenario will present itself.  As a matter of fact, I'm surprised that the President hasn't already issued a veto threat against that sort of thing.  

            Better to get no bill at all than a stupid one that costs a bunch of people a lot of money, as much as that would piss people off.  Fortunately, there are people on the Senate Finance Committee who don't intend to let the Baucus bill pass without considerable amendment.  Time will tell.

            Half-baked ideas for sale - cheap!

            by Steaming Pile on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 10:53:56 AM PDT

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        •  I would suspect... (1+ / 0-)
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          That Limbaugh's audience is highly skewed toward older people.  Lots of retired people who need something to fill in their waking hours.  Going down to the polls to vote is an outing.

          15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

          by BobTrips on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 10:32:59 AM PDT

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    •  Indeed! And Palin was absolutely convinced (0+ / 0-)

      she and McCain had the election in the bag.  She really believed, because they told her so, they were certain to win the election in a landslide.

    •  It could be even better than that.. (0+ / 0-)

      Note this interesting comment by KTinOhio (about 1 month old, see comment for more details)...

      So, if we compare the election results to the current favorability polls, which are obviously not the same thing, but the election was a much a referendum on Obama as anything else, Obama has gone from +7 to +15 nationally, +20 to +68 in the Northeast, +8 to +29 in the Midwest, +14 to +24 in the West, and - 7 to -41 in the South.  Somehow, a lot of McCain voters in the Northeast now give Obama a favorable grade, as do a smaller number of McCain voters in the Midwest and West.  But in the South, the opposite is true; large numbers of Obama voters seem to have turned against him.

      So, Obama may be consolidating support in democratic districts while the Republicans consolidate support in their districts. In a sense digging in the trenches.

      The diary the comment is attached to (by silver spring) attempts to separate out the southern white vote from all other voters... This is what is found...

      "Southern Whites" (approx. 21% of the U.S. population):
      Obama - 5% favorable; 91% unfavorable

      "everyone else" (non-Southerners of all races and Southern blacks and Hispanics; approx. 79% of the U.S. population):
      Obama - 68% favorable; 26% unfavorable

      and for the GOP...

      "Southern Whites" - 64% favorable; 18% unfavorable
      "everyone else" - 9% favorable; 84% unfavorable

      I suspect this could be leading to the mistaken impression in the south that the only people still supporting Obama are blacks and a few very liberal people and thus a Republican resurgence is very likely. Further they are also likely to do a horrible job selecting a candidate for 2012 as they are completely misreading the electorate as a whole!

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