Skip to main content

View Diary: On Obama's "Dive In the Polls" And 2010 (222 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  800 lb Gorillas. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    Two problems loom:

    1.  Everybody hates Congress

    The hate Republicans more than Democrats, but...


    This administration continues to treat unemployment as a nuisance on its way to more important issues, ignoring the old saw:

    It's a recession when my neighbor loses his job and a depression when I lose mine.

    Long term unemployment may be a policy nuisance, but its a personal disaster for millions of people.  It's the kind of personal disaster that can lead to "throw the buns out", and a choice between bum "Party I hate and Party I hate more" may not be as compelling as "Get rid of the guy who fiddles like Nero while my life goes to Hell."

    Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

    by dinotrac on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 09:30:51 AM PDT

    •  How do they go about creating jobs? (0+ / 0-)

      Do you really believe they don't care about unemployment?  It's up to business to hire people and the best the administration can do is to give incentives to business to do so.

      Ways:  Make health care more affordable for business.
            More tax cuts to business
            Free up the credit
            Fix Trade
      to name a few.

      Stimulate the economy by giving money to the states for shovel ready projects.

      I think this administration is doing all of that, but the rate of unemployment has been climbing since 2007 and the previous administration did nothing to slow it.

      Before it can rise again, it has to slow, stop declining and start to rise.  We've not there yet.

      It's only been eight months, and it's been growing badly since 2006-2007.  What do you expect for eight months in?

      •  Which matters for nothing. (0+ / 0-)

        Come the 2010 elections, the Democrats will have controlled Congress for nearly four years and the White House for nearly two years.

        The unemployed will not be impressed by "It's not my fault!"

        Pointing at Bush will be a like a Doctor saying, "I didn't give you the cancer, why do expect me to cure it?"

        So far, unemployment tends to be news when the numbers come out.  For people in that boat (as I was and will be again soon), it is the single most important story in their lives, day after day after day.

        A President who's not FDR can't do a whole lot, it's true, but appearances matter, too, and cool indifference is not a trust builder.

        Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

        by dinotrac on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 10:24:51 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Where will unemployment be? (0+ / 0-)

          The absolute unemployment rate is important, but so is the change in unemployment.  Unemployment at 8.4% looks a lot better when it was at 10.2% a year earlier.

          2009: Year of the Donkey. Let's not screw it up.

          by Yamaneko2 on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 05:47:08 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  of course unemployment is important (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      and i'd hardly say they consider it to be a "policy nuisance," but unemployment always has been and always will be a lagging indicator; i can't see what they're supposed to do about that inconvenient economic reality.
      talking about how bad unemployment is every second of every day isn't going to change how economic indicators work, all they can do is put in place policies that they believe will help create jobs, tell people why it will work, and wait for it to work; that sounds like exactly what they've been doing. obviously that's not much solace to somebody who is out of work and suffering, but i'm not sure what else they can really do eight months in.

      OH NOEZ!! Obama is a huge gigantous failure!! Obama=Bush's 3rd term! OH NOEZ!! Make Sarah Palin President instead! /snark.

      by moja31 on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 11:11:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That's true, but remember that moment in Obama's (0+ / 0-)

        speech when he said he wouldn't sign a bill that added a dime to the federal debt?

        "Don't you dare bring me a bill that's going to cost any American jobs.  Not even a few. There is no need for that, no need whatsoever."

        When you have no hope, it helps to believe that powerful people are on your side, even when there's not a lot they can do.

        The best antidote, of course, is for the numbers to go down.  If people are working, the Congressional Democrats could all be exposed as space alien zombies who feed on toenail clippings and chihuahuas without losing any seats.

        Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

        by dinotrac on Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 11:46:24 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site