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    corvo, borkitekt, volleyboy1, canadian gal

    I'm not sure what to make of the Jewish media comment. I don't think he was implying some kind of world-wide conspiracy or anything like that. I think he was referring to Israeli and Jewish American newspapers advocating on behalf of their interests. It was indelicately worded, and perhaps I am being too generous in my interpretation, but as I said, I'm sort of not clear on it.

    •  No it is straight racism. (2+ / 0-)
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      leftynyc, Doodad

      I guess that it is ok at DKos to be a stone racist as long as you talk shit about Israel.

      You know nathan you are a good guy and I think you are being generous but, I believe that you and unspeakable and maybe a few others really do fight racism. But fuckin' A, this shit is like what dean was accused of and worse and there are fuckin' crickets.

      Unbelievable.

      How do we end Practice? We end practice with a Team Fight! ---- My five year old at the end of his soccer practice.

      by volleyboy1 on Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 08:07:16 PM PDT

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      •  I think you're (0+ / 0-)

        over-reacting.

        This is not like what deaniac was accused of, not even close. The comparison is patently absurd.

        And it's not like you ever HR your racist pal Karmafish, so spare me the drama.

        •  Actually I did HR him the (1+ / 0-)
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          other day in defense of unspeakable. Which has led him to tell me to Fuck off. I would be happy to show the exchange if you disagree with me. In fact let me play his comment to me here - just so you know the truth. Here

          But, what Eiron has said here is completely fucked up.

          nathan I don't accuse you of supporting it because I know you stand against racism. But, sorry man - the things he said are getting a pass but, when others say shit like this they get nailed to the wall.

          You are dead wrong here.

          How do we end Practice? We end practice with a Team Fight! ---- My five year old at the end of his soccer practice.

          by volleyboy1 on Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 08:24:16 PM PDT

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      •  also (0+ / 0-)

        in re-reading that thread, it is very clear that Eiron is talking about the ZOA and the ADL when he references  a media campaign against Hosny. I have little doubt that these two groups would have opposed any Arab culture minister because of the Arab states' refusal to normalize relations with Israel. And by the way, I support the Arab cultural boycott of Israel.

        So while I disagree with Eiron's position of supporting Hosny for the job, he is not speaking of some nefarious all powerful Jewish media, and that is fairly clear from his posts, which are based in pragmatism (he admits Hosny is not ideal).

        •  You know I trust you on issues of (1+ / 0-)
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          Doodad

          anti-semitism and racism. But, I am a bit disappointed that you don't see the racism in context with his other statements.

          I am supposed to pay attention to racism but, when I ask others.... OH NOEZ not that. Forget respecting a point of view. Maybe some folks are right concerning racism and Dkos.

          No worries,, I think it is time to comment on other subjects and let this one die.

          I can't fucking believe this. Really I can't. More than that I can't fucking believe the double standard. AND More than that I can't fucking believe that people who claim to care about human rights are willing to sit around and watch this garbage. Just unbelievable.

          How do we end Practice? We end practice with a Team Fight! ---- My five year old at the end of his soccer practice.

          by volleyboy1 on Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 08:30:59 PM PDT

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          •  look (0+ / 0-)

            he's Jewish. He's objecting to specific Jewish groups, which he actually names. And I do notice that whenever I criticize anything about the Arab world I get a million uprates. Why? Because people want me to confirm their biases about Arabs. So I'm really sorry. I said I think Eiron worded his objections indelicately. I don't think he is an anti-semite, and I think the only reason he supports Hosny is because of political pragmatism, which he makes clear. Do I think he's wrong on this issue? yes. But I don't think he's comments are HR worthy, and apparently, neither does anyone else.

            •  Really well here is another thing (2+ / 0-)
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              JNEREBEL, yaque

              You said:

              in re-reading that thread, it is very clear that Eiron is talking about the ZOA and the ADL when he references  a media campaign against Hosny

              you claim that he says its just the ADL and ZOA that he is talking about. If he had said advocacy groups alone that is fine, but, he said JEWISH MEDIA AND ADVOCACY GROUPS.

              What the does that mean then if it is not anti-semitic?

              How do we end Practice? We end practice with a Team Fight! ---- My five year old at the end of his soccer practice.

              by volleyboy1 on Wed Sep 23, 2009 at 08:44:18 PM PDT

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