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  •  so Acorn dealt with it, right? (6+ / 0-)

    I'm not clear why you say this: "I'm not here to defend or throw under the bus what every party / group has done. We're talking about Acorn - and, if you read my comment, they have done good - but that good does not excuse what is going on." And yet continue to jump on the entire organization for what those few people did.

    So they fired the people who may be involved in wrongdoing, as you just pointed out. Isn't that dealing with the problem and preventing this sort of thing from happening again?

    What more do you want them to do?

    Are you out to end Acorn as an organization? To completely cut their funding? Given what has happened, what should they do now?

    •  They have to police (1+ / 0-)
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      internally - set up corrective action to prevent this from happening.  I think they are starting the process, but, these things take time.  

      I'm glad they fired the bad people - and I think they can re-establish their position and be considered for public funds - but that is a process.  

      Thier federal funding, I believe, has been cut.

      They will have to show their internal process and procedure changes, how they are / have been implemented and how they are reviewed, tested and followed up upon.

      The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

      by ctexrep on Thu Sep 24, 2009 at 06:26:31 AM PDT

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      •  What bad people? (6+ / 0-)

        What does an edited video by R wing activists tell us? They fired someone to make things look good. We have no idea if they are bad or good people.

        No funding has been cut.

        You should read Daily Kos. A praposal was made to defund orgs that have individuals who have committed fraud on govt contracts. Might cut of $ to all defence contractors, Republican party, the bill was a joke.

        "Don't fall or we both go" Derek Hersey

        by ban nock on Thu Sep 24, 2009 at 07:23:04 AM PDT

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      •  Right, their funding has been cut. They have (0+ / 0-)

        specifically been cut from helping with census and from doing voter registration.

        This all happened within days...with no investigation, no testimony, no hearings, no checking the tapes, no finding out how many they visited to get what they did. Nothing.

        But you are saying that's all OK because a few people in a few places did things wrong, especially according to unexamined tapes of a right wing activist who is offended by their role in registering Democrats.

        and that those of us who feel they are being treated unfairly are supporting child prostitution or whatever...(and I'm thinking you didn't listen tpo tapes all that carefully)

        They had to act to defund the whole agency quickly for this because it's not something trivial like the Blackwater murders that you can just overlook.
        and look I know you aren't saying that but your casual dismissal of the whole of ACORN...

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