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  •  How do you.. (1+ / 0-)
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    blueness

    ..know he hasn't "dealt [deals] with Meteor"?

    Again, you attached a note to MB last night ; he did not respond to you, nor did he appear in this thread to back up your claims that what blueness posted was forbidden by him.  Perhaps you should try emailing MB personally in order to get clarification re. his views on this?

    "APN strongly opposes actions that change the status quo in Jerusalem." -- Ori Nir

    by sofia on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 05:39:36 PM PDT

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    •  I'll leave him (0+ / 0-)

      to deal with this.  You don't know if he's responded to me or to anyone else -- including the person I passed these links to who then cc'd me on a very interesting email to Meteor.  It's between them now.  It's not my battle, no matter how many times you and blueness try to make it that way.  I'm not part of it.  Take it up with him.

      •  I have no idea.. (1+ / 0-)
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        ..what you're talking about.  But since MB failed to respond to you, and as I repeatdid not show up in this thread to tell blueness he was wrong, as you requested, I'd say that's telling.

        And it certainly is "your battle" since you're the one complaining.  

        "APN strongly opposes actions that change the status quo in Jerusalem." -- Ori Nir

        by sofia on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 07:33:57 PM PDT

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        •  asdf (1+ / 0-)
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          you do know you're arguing a negative, right?  Your friend, blueness, with your help, creates these little dramas, not me.  I'm just along for the ride and the ride stopped the minute Meteor told your friend to put up or shut up. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you shouldn't be stumbling around in it. I've turned it over to the people who are actually involved. How Meteor choses to deal with them is up to him.

          •  And.. (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm just along for the ride and the ride stopped the minute Meteor told your friend to put up or shut up

            ..how do you know he didn't (put up or shut up)?   Again the fact that MB failed to respond to you and failed to enter this thread to stop blueness is telling, as you well know.  Some of the stuff you're blathering about I have no idea about since you've refused repeatedly to provide links.

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            "APN strongly opposes actions that change the status quo in Jerusalem." -- Ori Nir

            by sofia on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 08:28:51 PM PDT

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            •  Let me get this straight (0+ / 0-)

              you're saying that Meteor has approved, actually is encouraging you and blueness to hijack my threads and bring up banned users and sow doubts about my identity?

              Just want this to be clear. You are claiming the administrators here are orchestrating this and that they have directed you and blueness to harass a user for them.

              Got it.

              •  no (1+ / 0-)
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                she did not say that.

                What she said was this:

                And.

                I'm just along for the ride and the ride stopped the minute Meteor told your friend to put up or shut up

                ..how do you know he didn't (put up or shut up)?   Again the fact that MB failed to respond to you and failed to enter this thread to stop blueness is telling, as you well know.  Some of the stuff you're blathering about I have no idea about since you've refused repeatedly to provide links.

                You really need to learn to read and process the words that are actually on the screen, rather than the ones that form themselves in your head.

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            the sixth time, please provide a link to your assertion that "the video is in violation of something Meteor already told them to stop."

            For the fourth time, please provide access to "the link from a respected user who said you were the one whose [sic] been spreading tales about the user you're obsessed with."

            As you do not provide the links, the presumption is that they do not exist.

            The "little dramas" are yours. It is you have created the drama in this thread. Seeing things that were not there, and then commencing the St. Vitus Dance. As for your veiled little threat to sofia--"[i]f you don't know what I'm talking about, then you shouldn't be stumbling around in it"--you're good at those, too. But they're empty. I don't know how many times you've tried to run people off with veiled little warnings. All Potemkinizing--there's nothing behind them. Remember when you told me that I had committed a "bannable offense," and would receive "at least a warning"? Didn't happen.

            •  Since you (0+ / 0-)

              linked to the thread where you rec'd the comment, here's a pertinent passage:  

              If blueness was correct, that user knows how to elaborately fabricate a persona. Perhaps even including sending links to fabricated obituaries.

              'that user' wasn't hard to track down. Your sewer friends outed her, after all. I sent her that link and it was, according to her, a revelation to find out you were the one who's been keeping the cyberhate alive against her all this time.  

              She cc'd me on an email to the admin. It included a link that proved the obituary was not fabricated and she asked this question of the administrator:  how is what blueness is doing any different from (another user who was banned).

              This is between you, the user you're obsessed with (who is not me) and Meteor, who sofia has now implied is orchestrating your attacks.  So, you all go and meet at whatever level of hell where you all plan your cyber assaults and leave me out of it.

              •  let's (1+ / 0-)
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                print the whole thing, shall we? Jhritz, for one, got very exercised when people printed only parts of comments. So here is that comment, in full:

                i don't want
                emails. Really I don't. It's exceedingly easy for somebody who has done it before to fabricate a persona.

                In fact, the person who blueness has mentioned emailed me from two different accounts before. One from her "jhritz" account, and one, about 1 minute later, from an "anonymous" account. It's pretty clear she was trying to get me to post comments outing shergald - posting his real name, wife's name, etc.

                So to be frank, and email from you wouldn't prove anything to me. If blueness was correct, that user knows how to elaborately fabricate a persona. Perhaps even including sending links to fabricated obituaries.

                All I'm saying is that none of this bullshit arguing would happen if everyone just behaves a little better.

                Really. The stuff I talked about before is kind of a bad idea.

                First of all, if "that user" is your "respected user," you have seriously misled this community. Jhritz is not a "respected user," but a banned user, one who is not permitted to return to this site.

                Second, those who "outed her" (we won't quibble about that "outing" now; such as the fact that jhritz, shortly before she was banned, posted an identical diary on kos and, under her real name, on another site) were not "my sewer friends." Those who were banned together with jhritz I did not miss; ask anyone who was around at the time. One of them, in fact, later went after my daughter. Not really a friend, that sort. ; )

                Third, the comment from taylormattd was in response to an invitation from you to email him. Taylor replied that, judging by his experience with jhritz, such an email exchange would prove nothing, as jhritz had previously sent him multiple emails from multiple accounts and multiple personalities (attempting to get him to out a user, by the way--a bannable offense). I don't know why he refers to me as the authority for "elaborately fabrica[ting] a persona," as he had just demonstrated it himself, with himself as the example.

                Fourth, your ability to wildly leap to utterly wrong conclusions continues to amaze. I have never been "the one who's been keeping the cyberhate alive against her all this time," and the comment from taylor certainly does not say that I have. In truth, I felt sorry for her when she was here, and sorry for her again when she was set upon, under a sockpuppet ID, at pff. In her final days on this site, I defended her, as you can see here and here. I defy you or anyone else to pull up any comments from me from that period varying from that theme. I have never accused her of fabricating her father's obituary; I knew her father had died, and not only accepted it, but referenced it onsite, as here.

                Fifth, I am not obsessed with jhritz. But that you get so worked up about this, to such a remarkable extent, to the point where you dash off emails to her, delude yourself that she is a "respected user," and even hallucinate from taylor's comment an entire alternate reality in which I am the Fount of all Evil in some "cyberhate campaign" against her, says to me that you certainly are.

                You need to email Meteor Blades about this, my view. Especially now that your paranoia has reached such a severe level that you apparently believe he may have joined the nefarious Them, those that "meet at whatever level of hell where you all plan your cyber assaults."

                •  I did (0+ / 0-)

                  send an email. Since you kept bringing jhritz up (I never have), I tracked her down. I just sent her this thread and she cc'd an admin on her reply, so they have it.

                  Here's what she asked me to tell you, blueness:  rather than bring her up here, she requests you contact her directly through the contact page on her online magazine. That way she can address your accusations directly (and I would add without disruption to Daily Kos or adding more ways you can think to disparage people).  

                  I hope you do contact her. I would also add you should include an apology for the bullshit you've posted.  If you really did defend her and weren't just being two-faced, you shouldn't be doing this two years later anyway.  

                  Not matter what you do, I'm out of this. You talk about her so much, it's obvious you know how to find her. You have no excuse for continuing to bother me.

                  •  That's weird.. (1+ / 0-)
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                    blueness

                    I tracked her down

                    ..because someone you have been in email contact with emailed me and told me you claimed to them to be jhritz's boyfriend.

                    Which of course I don't believe, but I know this person wouldn't make something like that up (that you claimed to be jhritz's boyfriend).

                    "APN strongly opposes actions that change the status quo in Jerusalem." -- Ori Nir

                    by sofia on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 11:50:34 PM PDT

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                  •  i have (1+ / 0-)
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                    no desire to talk to jhritz offsite, and I owe her no apologies. She's a banned user who helped make a big mess here. She also assailed me with a ridiculous series of emails under one of her alternate identities, stormchaser, which I believe was her sockpuppet identity on pff, and which I believe is the identity she currently runs on Docudharma . . . where she claims to be jhritz' boyfriend.

                    What is your identity on Docudharma?

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