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  •  Well, there were indeed deep divisions (12+ / 0-)

    in first century CE Palestine among those Jews who were somewhat rural and provincial in outlook (and who spoke only Aramaic), and more urbanized, Hellenized Jews and those Jews who considered themselves Roman citizens. In Weimar Germany there were deep and terrible currents of anti-Semitism, and the ugly growth of the Freikorps (and later the SA) were only the most noticeable components of it.

    Dammit, it's time for some poetry! And some news!

    by Yosef 52 on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 04:16:32 PM PDT

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    •  Absolutely true (4+ / 0-)

      but the cultural groups of Jews in the first CE were bent on killing each other.   The Iscarii are often cited as the first real organized terrorists.  

      In Weimar Germany and Post 1917 Russia Jews had legal and social protections from persecution, and flourished, in law, arts, the professions.

      In Weimar, the seeds of the SA were present by the soil was infertile until the economic contraction of 1929.

      In fact, they two experiences interact.   In Weimar, The Jews were simultaneously Bolshevik missionaries and financial system capitalist manipulators. Go figger.

      Carnegie spent more money on Eugenics than the Fascists, eugenics was expropriated and mobilized by the Nazis as a race classification and persecution scheme.  

      Those who hear not the music-think the dancers mad

      by Eiron on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 04:26:48 PM PDT

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      •  Christianity started as a Jewish sect, a very (2+ / 0-)
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        large one at that, which soon rivaled and in the end eclipsed what was becoming rabbinical Judaism.

        The hostility between the two is natural in such rival sects.  Think Stalinism vs. Trotskyism.

        The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

        by lysias on Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 04:39:00 PM PDT

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