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  •  Best of Luck (2+ / 0-)
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    and I would offer the advice to not adopt an "in your face" attitude. State of Mainers don't like to be lectured or patronized (at least not this one.)

    •  I certainly don't want to lecture or patronize .. (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm here to share my story, and humbly ask Maine voters to make the same mistake that California made.

      •  Oops ... (1+ / 0-)
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        There should have been the word "not" between "voters" and "to"

        •  Fixed tags, please use same tags as other diaries (1+ / 0-)
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          .... in this series so people can find all the relevant diaries.  Making up different tags all the time scatters the stories into orphan bins.

          On the state of Maine's web site, this issue is referred to as a People's Veto, number 1 on the ballot, because it is a veto of existing law.

          This is good framing for reasonable people to use because Mainers know what a "people's veto" is.  It is using local language to gain credibility.

          It also shows that the People's Veto would take away existing civil rights of equality.

          The following tags are being used on these stories here:

          Maine  by far the most popular

          Marriage Equality

          No on 1

          People's Veto

          Same sex marriage


          equal rights

          Schubert Flint  

          gay marriage


          don't forget to use commas ,,,,  between each tag

          When talking about the Republican Sacramento PR firm, don't forget to call them Schubert Flint, the full name, as Jeff Flint has been up there and is also running this.  Emphasizing how much money Schubert Flint makes off of this endeavor just for using this divisive and hateful thing as a cash cow is a point to make.

          The Mormon money IS involved, you just don't see it yet.

          The cal access accounts of the Yes on 8 groups are still open, active, and were taking donations after the last election, including those from some LDS people, and those donations are being funneled into the campaign in ways that are not immediately obvious.

          Much of it is going to go to Republican candidates here in CA like Prop 8 attorney Andrew Pugno, now running for state office, but some will be used in Maine-  it's too much easy money to ignore.  You won't be able to track it all until after this election.

          "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

          by AmericanRiverCanyon on Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 11:31:02 AM PDT

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          •  Wow, thanks for all the helpful information (n/t) (1+ / 0-)
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          •  The Maine Ethics Commission is investigating NOM (1+ / 0-)
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            Puglette's diary at Pam's House Blend (posted as Louise) has details. The Maine Ethics Commission now, in addition to the California Fair Political Practices Commission, is investigating NOM for money laundering and violation of campaign funding laws. We owe Fred Karger a big whopping thank you (and maybe some donations to help cover his legal expenses).

            That's now two investigations into NOM. Who knows what Pandora's box will be opened, and how much mormon money will be exposed? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the mormon church has been funding gay-bashing-by-ballot since Hawaii in the 90s. The trick is catching them and exposing them for doing it, and maybe, just maybe, getting them prosecuted and fined for illegal practices.

            When are you going to understand that being normal is not necessarily a virtue? It rather denotes a lack of courage. - Practical Magic

            by Keori on Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 12:54:37 PM PDT

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            •  Good !!! (0+ / 0-)

              ... I don't care if the LDS want to give political donations but this has been a horrific abuse of the campaign finance laws, which have limits as to how much an individual can give to one candidate during a certain time frame. Rules. Remember rules? Those pesky little things we're all supposed to follow?

              Plus, it's terrible that churches are directly funding candidates by telling members to contribute.  Telling them right in the churches, such as that Catholic Bishop is doing up in Maine this year.  What an abuse of religious power.   The lying about it also was not nice, I had many online discussions about this in 2008, with people whom were trying to defend it by insisting it didn't happen, where they were insisting that the Mormons were not doing this, even as I showed them they were doing it- I'd pull up the donation records.  Gee, every family in that ward on that date gave the same amount.... what a coincidence, you'd think it was coordinated.

              Tax exempt status-  if you act like a business instead of a charity, you should get taxed. They had all sorts of "charities" that were getting money from politician's accounts, to print flyers up telling people which candidates to vote for.

              Well, so far until Scalia at the Supreme Court declares souless corporations are the same as human beings, we will have donation limits, but we'll deal with that as it happens.

              "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

              by AmericanRiverCanyon on Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 05:16:03 PM PDT

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