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  •  It's a question of strategy (3+ / 0-)

    I don't understand the logic of the argument that by supporting the republican candidate (or remaining neutral)against a moderate D in a district that has always (since the 1850s!!)R, and somehow we will get mobetta progressive D nominees in the future. We ran some of more progressive candidates against McHugh, and sadly they were trounced.

    What we will get is a brief period of a libertarian R congressional representative, followed by either losing the district altogether after the census, or getting redistricted into something that is so solidly R (by taking the most R parts of the neighboring swing CDs) that we will never even be able to get a moderate D elected here.

    •  On redistricting... (2+ / 0-)
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      NorthCountryNY, tietack

      I think everyone in districts held by Republicans (I am in NY-26) thinks their district is going to be targeted in 2012. But the problem in NY-23 isn't enrollment (it's a pretty moderate district, so a Democrat can win there). The problem has been that the same guy has been the representative and he's been moderate in Congress (he was one of a few Republicans to support the climate change bill). Incumbency helps.

      The problem with Owens is:

      (1) We have hardly heard from him. I don't know a whole lot about him. I wrote this post but it took a few days of research. Information is sparse. It's easy when the person is an elected official. It's very difficult when the person isn't an elected official and all we know about him is what we're told. When you aren't told a lot, it's hard to defend/criticize him.

      (2) Some progressives tend to have this "progressive or bust" mentality. I don't have that mentality, but I certainly don't want a Blue Dog. I don't think Owens will be a progressive. He says he's a moderate. If he is a moderate, that will be good for me.

      (3) Would you rather have Darrel Aubertine (the man who EVERYONE wanted to run because he would probably win) or Owens? Aubertine would be a Blue Dog. He is anti-choice and anti-marriage equality. He is a conservative Democrat. Owens is not. If Aubertine was put up, I would have said two things: As a Democrat, I would be happy because a Democrat could get the seat. As a progressive, I would not be happy because Aubertine would join the Blue Dog caucus and would probably oppose many progressive views.

      That's not the case with Owens.

      Support our troops... not the war.

      by robert harding on Sun Oct 04, 2009 at 10:49:07 AM PDT

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