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  •  Massive FAIL (0+ / 0-)
    If you burn a gallon of oil you get X pounds of CO2.  There is no dirty vs. clean in this.  The only exception is for carbon sequestration projects, all of which are only in the pilot stage.

    Your second point is simply flat out wrong.  CO2 output from the smokestack can be reduced, but it costs, and this bill provides no incentive.

    Of course, either way, I'm surpirsed that you are pretending to be or actually are ignorant of the fact that CO2 can be removed from an exhaust stream by any of numerous methods.

    Looks like the beginning of a walk back - you are now referring to removing CO2 from the exhaust stream... and doing what with it please?  Magically disintegrating it into its component atoms?

    From http://science.howstuffworks.com/...

    After the fossil fuel is combusted in air, the resulting gases are collected and chilled. The solvent is then added and absorbs the CO2, forming a new compound in a reversible chemical reaction. The new compound separates out from the other gases by entering a more solid state that gets pumped to a new chamber and reheated. The heat causes the CO2 to come back out of solution so that it can be diverted to storage.

    Needless to say, after it is diverted to storage it must be sequestered.  Otherwise no benefit.

    •  Sorry dude, do some reading, catch up, and then (0+ / 0-)

      we can talk.  Yes, at the end of the day, sequestration will generally, but not always be required, such as those making cement with mineralized CO2.  The CO2 can also be recycled into biodiesel, getting a second bite from the apple, but don't let that bother you, it is much better to believe that CO2 cannot be removed from flue gasses and such, that way you can try to con people into supporting bills which make no attempt to limit or restrict CO2 emissions as opposed to those which do.

      "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

      by enhydra lutris on Mon Oct 05, 2009 at 06:11:11 PM PDT

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