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  •  I'm not a socialist.. I am fairly apolitical (0+ / 0-)

    I wish I could be more optimistic about politics, but they seem like a bunch of crooks to me.

    The communiststs have been as bad as the capitalists, often worse. Crooks. Serious crooks.

    Illness is Health! Negligence is Care! Fraud is Accuracy! Affordable Healthcare or Bush by 2084: Vote Obama in 2012 and 2016!

    by Andiamo on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 07:30:24 AM PST

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    •  Anyone who is so adamant... (0+ / 0-)

      about single payer HCR is the only thing that will work is quite the socialist...there are many countries where private insurance works quite well and is properly regulated (Switzerland for instance)...

      Obama - Change I still believe in

      by dvogel001 on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:01:46 AM PST

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      •  Hell, I would support ANYTHING THAT WORKS (0+ / 0-)

        If I could access a REAL free market, instead of rights to my enslavement being sold to the highest bidder, you bet I would do it.

        The average drug costs $0.11 (eleven cents) to make a years supply. Most far less. (thats an average of all, including the most costly.)

        Illness is Health! Negligence is Care! Fraud is Accuracy! Affordable Healthcare or Bush by 2084: Vote Obama in 2012 and 2016!

        by Andiamo on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:09:13 AM PST

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        •  But you are not including R&D costs... (0+ / 0-)

          unless you are going to nationalize all R&D of pharmaceuticals...

          Obama - Change I still believe in

          by dvogel001 on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:13:46 AM PST

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          •  Redo it to work.. (0+ / 0-)

            Simply redo it from scratch..

            what we have now is clearly killing LOTS of people.

            Illness is Health! Negligence is Care! Fraud is Accuracy! Affordable Healthcare or Bush by 2084: A Progressive WH by 2016!

            by Andiamo on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:14:11 AM PST

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            •  No you don't get it... (0+ / 0-)

              how are you going to fund new R&D for new innovative drugs or are we going to be happy with the current level of pharmcology effectiveness...that takes massive investment which needs to be funded by profits on drugs and also all the drugs that never make it to market...

              So unless you are nationalizing all pharmaceutical research and development...the drugs need to have a high profit margin that takes this into account...

              Obama - Change I still believe in

              by dvogel001 on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 11:14:25 AM PST

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