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  •  There's some clues that he has been doing (0+ / 0-)

    quite a bit in a very sneaky (good kind of sneaky) way.  So I'm not giving up.  I've been pretty mad at him about several things -- am not a groupie.  But right now he's looking pretty good on health care reform (although a week or so ago, I would have said the opposite).

    If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

    by Tamar on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 08:51:20 AM PDT

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    •  funny (0+ / 0-)

      But right now he's looking pretty good on health care reform (although a week or so ago, I would have said the opposite).

      Seems to me there's a word for that kind of political behavior.  Real popular term around 2004. You know, when someone flips their position, not really leading with a consistent message, just flopping from one stance to the next...

      What IS that term???

      Dear Mr. President, There are too many states nowadays. Please eliminate three.
      P.S. I am not a crackpot.
      -Abe Simpson

      by fromer on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 09:01:06 AM PDT

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      •  Actually -- I don't see it as flip-flopping (0+ / 0-)

        but Obama's usual understated political method.  

        If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

        by Tamar on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 03:13:12 PM PDT

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    •  You mean he's working behind the scenes (3+ / 0-)

      to eliminate the for-profit insurance industry?

      getting us universal health care?

      the current definition of reform is a joke. A fatal one.

      •  Absolutely (3+ / 0-)

        You look at homelessness and teetering off the end of the financial cliff. I look at the same thing as an eventuality and refuse to go there, allowing my disease process to finish itself out instead. I've written about this a number of times. I know I am not the only one making this calculus, nor are you alone in what you face.

        But in either case, it is fatal. Homelessness and despair can kill as surely as ESRD. And in both cases, it is preventable by one simple thing: an application of caring. Caring enough to make sure that everyone, no matter how "productive" or not (Gack! What a vile measure of someone's worth!) has the care they need, regardless of whether it feeds some CEO's coffers, regardless of whether a corporation makes money on it, regardless of anything other than best practices and patient need.

        Did you know the state high-risk pool in this state has itself a $2 million lifetime cap? Where is someone supposed to go when he or she has used up all of the insurance provided by the insurer of last resort? You're right that the game is rigged and the House always wins. But this isn't a casino; it's a game of three-card monte.

        Living kidney donor needed; type B, O, or incompatible (with paired donation). Drop me a note (see profile).

        by Kitsap River on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 10:15:08 AM PDT

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        •  I don't believe (3+ / 0-)

          he's working for universal care. he totters back and for between how hard he fights for the "public option" which is really nothing. Until we cut out the insurance industry and limit the profits that can be made in the entire medical industrial complex, we will never see things truly change.

          I have insurance. So what good is the "public option" to me? It is only a pool that will pay the private insurers. Its not changing the rules of the game at all. Its still rigged.

          •  Yes, just so. (1+ / 0-)
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            In fact, I have TWO kinds of insurance - one is private insurance (well, group employer insurance, thanks to my Charles) and the other is socialized medicine. Why should ONE disease - ESRD - automatically qualify you for Medicare, and not all of them? What about the people who could be covered who are healthy and who would feed dollars into the system while they are; what about them? Don't they deserve good, affordable health care coverage without feeding the Beast?

            Medicare for All is what will work. If we can cover every senior and every person with ESRD (almost, anyway), can't we cover every BODY?

            Living kidney donor needed; type B, O, or incompatible (with paired donation). Drop me a note (see profile).

            by Kitsap River on Thu Oct 08, 2009 at 04:39:55 PM PDT

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