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  •  Yeah and now he gets used by right-wingers (5+ / 0-)

    as ammo for their racist arguments. Well COSBY says....

    I've personally had a winger bring him up on their own just to get in a "conversation" about how black folks suck.

    Rub raw the sores of discontent - Saul Alinsky

    by JayGR on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 10:47:11 AM PDT

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    •  Yup. (2+ / 0-)
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      Completely unhelpful IMO.

    •  Sorry - Did You Just Call me a Right Winger? (0+ / 0-)

      I don't actually AGREE with the sentiment... in fact I have no idea.  I'm just pointing out that the IDEA ITSELF is either racist or it isn't, regardless of who is saying it.

      "Rahm Emmanuel bit my cat." - LaFeminista

      by TooFolkGR on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 10:53:47 AM PDT

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      •  That's a very extreme way of looking (1+ / 0-)
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        at things. So there is just NO in between? At all?

        •  I Guess I Don't Consider (0+ / 0-)

          The suggestion that the substance of the idea is more important than the skin color of the speaker (or the audience) to be particularly extreme.  

          I'm not sure what you mean by "No middle ground."  I'm entirely open to the possiblity that Dobbs is racist, I'm just saying I can't call him a racist for espousing a view that I have heard espoused by (more than one) NON-racist.

          Whereas the people who are disagreeing with me are saying there is zero possibility that Dobbs' comments can be interpreted as anything other than a racist attack on black people... including yourself actually.

          I think your suggestion of where "Middle Ground" is lacking is misdirected.

          "Rahm Emmanuel bit my cat." - LaFeminista

          by TooFolkGR on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 10:57:59 AM PDT

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      •  No. I wasn't talking about you. (1+ / 0-)
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        However, an idea may or may not be racist depending on what's going on underneath but some of Dobbs' statements are just plain racist on their face.

        As an example:

        Idea: Black kids need to do better at school.

        Now if Tom Metzger says it he means black people are lazy and dumb.

        If some non-racist says it they probably mean that the school system and environment the kids are growing up in is not conducive to success at school.

        Same idea, different meaning.

        Rub raw the sores of discontent - Saul Alinsky

        by JayGR on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 10:59:08 AM PDT

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    •  That, and misquoting MLK. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Landscape, with its basis of aridity, is both our peculiar splendor and our peculiar limitation- Wallace Stegner

      by blindyone on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 11:38:26 AM PDT

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