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  •  Seriously ... (4+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, velvet blasphemy, kfd313, FistJab

    Screw Greenwald. Talk about a guy who just doesn't get strategy.

    •  I stopped reading him ages ago (2+ / 0-)
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    •  So a commentator should (1+ / 0-)
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      hold his actual thoughts in check and (as he might see it) clap louder, for strategy's sake?

      Greenwald isn't a politician.  He, and we, don't have to play political consultant.  I'd hope most people here are speaking honestly and not trying to play each other or anyone else.  That would be a recipe for turning online discourse into competing press releases.

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 11:13:38 AM PDT

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      •  Does Greenwald desire particular ends in policy? (0+ / 0-)

        Or is he an analyst and nothing more. If he's an analyst and nothing more, he should have at it. If he is working toward a particular end, then he needs to understand that a complete airing of the pros and cons of your own position frequently spells the death of that position.

        •  If that's true of a position, (0+ / 0-)

          then that position isn't much worth having.

          I think I get what you're saying, but what it means is surrendering to the propagandists and relying upon ends-justify-the-means amorality.

          Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

          by Simplify on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 12:33:54 PM PDT

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      •  this post is a press release (0+ / 0-)

        It's an echo of this DNC opinion:

        "The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize," DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. "Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.

        "The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It's no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it's an embarrassing label to claim," Woodhouse said.

        You would think that "progressives" would find that, on the day Obama is awarded a peace prize, the last thing they would do is war with the Republicans.

        This is assholish politics at its worst.

        "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

        by catnip on Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 01:54:03 PM PDT

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