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  •  I celebrate the Snowe vote (1+ / 0-)
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    If you read between the lines of what Snowe is saying, it is that she will not stand in the way of historic legislation even if she has disagreements with portions of it.  This gives the Democrats the green light to add a viable public option and she will likely keep her vote in the yes column provided that she is consulted in the process.

    The Schumer-Carper public option opt-out initiative is probably the idea that will sell with her.  She can still support the legislation on these terms because she can hide behind a state's rights argument.

    Today feels like a win to me, and that's because it is a win.

    Now, to preserve this feeling and get this thing done right, Obama needs to step up and demand public option as part of the final legislation.  He needs to get enough votes for cloture and needs to tell so-called moderates that they have to fall in line on this vote for the good of the party and the country.

    The insurance companies gave us a gift with their calculated hissy fit and that should strengthen the resolve of progressives as well as weaken the wall of opposition from Senators with regards to supporting a public option. It looks more and more difficult for a Senator to be seen supporting the insurance companies after the arrogant way they have been flexing their muscle and stating that they can raise premiums to whatever level they want.

    That's when public option becomes less of a government health care program and more of a consumer protection initiative.

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    by khyber900 on Tue Oct 13, 2009 at 01:43:13 PM PDT

    •  The last time Congress listened to Snowe (4+ / 0-)
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      was when she and her friends weakened the stimulus bill.  How well did that turn out?  I understand that it's a good thing to get the other side to agree to support your health care bill, but at the same time, it's better to pass a good bill without so-called bi-partisanship, than it is to cave in and weaken a very important bill for the sake of bragging that it was bi-partisan.  Years from now, nobody will care if it was partisan or not.  They'll certainly be much more interested in the results.  Was this good and successful legislation that solved our problems or wasn't it?

    •  Happy to get the vote, the problem remains (0+ / 0-)

      her disproportionate influence on the process.

      •  which she'll continue to get (0+ / 0-)

        thanks to Senator Reid.

        http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...

        I work full-time with the FDL team on health reform thanks to your donations.

        by slinkerwink on Tue Oct 13, 2009 at 02:58:07 PM PDT

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        •  I guess this isn't important: (0+ / 0-)

          Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) told MSNBC this afternoon that President Obama "wants to come in hard" on health care reform now that the Senate Finance Committee has voted on their version of the bill.

          Rockefeller said he spoke with the President today. MSNBC anchor Ed Schultz challenged him, asking why Obama spoke so highly of the Finance Committee's bill, when it doesn't include a public option.

          "He's the President, you gotta cut him some slack. He's an inside player," Rockefeller said. "Don't worry about that. He wants the public option. He wants MedPAC. ... Now that the Finance Committee is finally out of the way we can move on."

          •  So are we to ignore Reid keeping Snowe at the (1+ / 0-)
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            table and allowing her to influence the legislation? It may very well mean that the public option gets redefined to mean a "trigger." Senator Reid has said the public option could also mean a trigger.

            I work full-time with the FDL team on health reform thanks to your donations.

            by slinkerwink on Tue Oct 13, 2009 at 04:58:18 PM PDT

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            •  Got my diary up on Harman& Sanchez for P/Opt now (1+ / 0-)
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              ... and their breaking with the Blue doggies.

              I don't know what they are doing with Snowe, but I've decided we will need to shift gears and start hammering the need for reform again because the insurance industry and the effing Repubs are going to go on major offensive.

              "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

              by AmericanRiverCanyon on Tue Oct 13, 2009 at 05:36:12 PM PDT

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