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  •  None of that is necessary, though (4+ / 0-)

    Except for the cooking part. You can start seeds yourself - inside your house. Many plants dont need to be started at all before they are planted. And you don't need to use a gas powered tiller. Muscle will work for plots that are not too big.

    Water is of course needed, so your point is valid there.

    But I think the point is that for meat, all of this stuff is needed plus the water that the animals need and all of the other energy sources they require. It's more efficient to eat the plant directly, as opposed to feeding it to an animal and then eating that.

    I'm no vegan, but am trying to cut back on the meat.! The climate can't wait.

    by B Amer on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 05:14:24 AM PDT

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    •  Well, the water can be collected from the roof, (0+ / 0-)

      into a barrel or cistern, or, maybe, channeled to the plants if rain will not be sufficient.

      Listen to Noam Chomsky's Necessary Illusions. (mp3!)

      by borkitekt on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 06:05:09 AM PDT

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    •  The seeds come from somewhere (0+ / 0-)

      In order to start seeds, you have to buy them (gas powered transport) and start them in sterile potting soil (gas powered transport).

      the garden is too big for hand power and the local authorities frown on keeping a donkey.

      Organic fertilizer comes from the compost heap (no oil involved) but also chicken manure (gas needed for transport) We could keep our own chickens if we had time, but would then have to feed them (gas powered transport for chicken feed)

      My point is that if you think about it, oil is involved in just about everything in this society.  

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