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  •  Temperature increases (0+ / 0-)

    peaked in 1999. Since then there has been a cooling trend at a little under -0.1 degrees Celsius a year. You can look it up. That doesn't mean that global warming isn't happening, it just means that CO2 concentration is not the biggest contributor to climate change.

    "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

    by johnmorris on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 08:14:33 AM PDT

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    •  Wrong. (2+ / 0-)
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      RunawayRose, RLMiller

      There are multiple organizations that measure global temperature.

      You are apparently using data collected by the British Government, the Met Office, the HadCUT3 database data.  That particular set of data relies on temperature readings taken from land sites and ships at sea.  

      It badly under samples the polar regions where most of the warming has been measured.  Not many land sites nor ships at the North Pole.

      If you look at the data taken by NASA which uses satellites to measure worldwide temperatures and does adequately include polar regions 2005 was hotter than any time in last century.

      Furthermore, this last September was the second hottest September in current history.  That's hardly cooling off....

      15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

      by BobTrips on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 09:29:54 AM PDT

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      •  Here's NASA... (0+ / 0-)

        NASA GISS 1880-2009

        NASA did a more complete data collection job than did the Met Office.

        There are two 'current decade' years essentially as hot as 1998 and one hotter.

        That's what happens when you include data from the polar regions where the most extreme warming has been happening.

        15 to 6. Pulled ahead as soon as the gate opened and never looked back....

        by BobTrips on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 11:23:17 AM PDT

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    •  Ugh ... (3+ / 0-)
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      Cherry-picking data endpoints is not a legitimate technique.

      We have a trend superimposed on a noisy signal such that the magnitude of the annual timescale noise is comparable to twenty years of trend.  Naturally there are peaks that stand out for a decade or more.

      The legitimate way to deal with the noise is to smooth the data - and indeed when it is smoothed to a 5 year running average then the warming trend is seen to be uninterrupted.

      "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by jrooth on Tue Oct 20, 2009 at 09:46:31 AM PDT

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    •  I did look it up (0+ / 0-)

      and your claim is false. Follow my link.

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