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  •  The irony is that NY and NJ may (5+ / 0-)

    very well be close to extending marriage equality to their LGBT citizens. Perhaps as early as next month depending on a bunch of things. Let them have to sink millions of their dollars into the NYC and Jersey TV markets to pollute the airwaves with their idiocy.

    You're right, though. Their entire campaign is about hate and inequality.

    The world is the canvass, and you are the painter. Your art is your life.

    by Liberalindependent28 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 03:32:47 PM PDT

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    •  who has deeper pockets? (2+ / 0-)
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      Sadly, we gay people have to keep paying & paying & paying, trying to fend off these attacks. I wish I believed the Mormon Church or the Catholic faithful would just accept Truth and stop giving to these campaigns of fear & lies, but there are a lot of them and they have a lot of money and Truth doesn't seem of much interest to them. If it's just about who can spend the most I tend to think the haters have an advantage.

    •  I don't think NJ & NY have people's vetos (3+ / 0-)

      And good luck taking on our communities in messaging and ground game! (Well, I don't really mean that, but NYC gays are FIERCE! They will get in your face Maggie, we still got ACT-UP alums kicking around.)

      277 kossack have raised $13,588 through ActBlue to support marriage equality in Maine as of 10/26.

      by Scott Wooledge on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 05:50:21 PM PDT

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      •  Correct. NY & NJ do not have the peoples veto. (0+ / 0-)

        That would require a Constitutional convention. It's exactly the same thing protecting Marriage Equality in Iowa. They wanted to get marriage on the ballot right away, but in certain states, that requires the use of the C.C. Unfortunately, for the anti-Gay Conservatives, that also opens the door to more Liberal reforms on things like welfare, the death penalty, and abortion they might not like to deal with. So...there is more of a chance that Marriage Equality will stay once enacted in states that require the electorate to call for a C.C.

        The world is the canvass, and you are the painter. Your art is your life.

        by Liberalindependent28 on Mon Oct 26, 2009 at 08:08:25 PM PDT

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        •  I don't see it happening in NY anytime soon (0+ / 0-)

          With the State Senate as narrowly divided as it is?  A marriage equality bill will need some GOP support to get through.  Not all Democrats in the Senate are for it... Ruben Diaz, Sr. for example.  And, even if we increase our majority next year (I think we're at a disadvantage ... the statemate in June really hurt the perception of Albany and if the "throw all incumbents out" mood follows to its logical conclusion, we'll be massacred), who's to say we won't get a GOP governor, especially with Giuliani thinking of getting in?

          "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

          by TLS66 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 02:58:02 PM PDT

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