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  •  Decaf? Here? (4.00)
    The Democrats in Washington State need to STOP DRINKING DECAF.

    Just where do you live, and just who the hell are you talking about?

    Is it the Democrats who had the best turnout in the state's history?

    Is it the Democrats who ran the best field operation in the state's history, and ID'ed tens of thousands of new Democratic voters, and got many of them to participate in a campaign for the first time ever?

    Is it the Democrats who carried the state for Kerry by seven percentage points, and for Patty Murray by damn near a landslide?

    Is it the Washington where we retook the state Senate and increased our majority in the House, and are preparing a bold agenda in environmental, educational, and transportation legislation?

    Is it the Democrats who are building strength on the ground at the precinct and District levels in all parts of the state?

    Is it the only state Democratic Party organization in the nation that has forced a Republican Secretary of State to follow state law and conduct a hand recount?

    Is it the only state Democratic Party organization in the nation that has taken this year's battle to the state Supreme Court to ensure that counties adhere to the same standards in canvassing?

    This is Washington, my brother, home of the WTO demonstrations, home of the Freeway-closing Vietnam protests, home of the Wobblies and the Everett Massacre.

    We don't sweat Chris Vance. He is an insect. We don't drink decaf. And we don't beat our wives. Go bust on Ohio, OK? We're ready to rumble here, and you might have figured that out by now.

    "Lash those conservatives and traitors with the pen of gall and wormwood -- let them feel -- no temporising!" -- Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1837

    by Ivan on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 09:00:44 AM PST

    •  Uh, dude (4.00)
      Many Dems here DO drink decaf. And most have paid hardly any attention to this hand recount - until today, when victory suddenly looked like a possibility.

      The party officials have done a good job so far. But the grassroots - to which msaroff was referring - have basically slept through the whole thing. All those voters you speak of have maybe seen some TV coverage of it, have cursed Shithead's name (Shithead being the GOP candidate for governor), but haven't done much of anything beyond that.

      Further, things have changed around here since the 1970 freeway protest and the 1916 Everett Massacre. A better comparison would be the Feb. 15, 2003 antiwar march in Seattle, at least 50,000 strong. But even that was a decaf march - it was silent, more like a vigil.

      My feeling is that most grassroots Dems simply aren't worked up about the recounts. But they would be if we win it and the wingers try something in the streets.

      I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

      by eugene on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 09:12:58 AM PST

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      •  N30 (4.00)
        Definitely not decaf.

        Don Rumsfeld: the new Marie Antoinette

        by lapin on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 09:28:37 AM PST

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        •  N30 (none)
          not really local people...

          i think those people came from oregon. hardly any "hippies" here at all, it's one of the reasons i moved here.
          {half joking, of course, but only half}

          I did join in though when the cops fucked up and made it a local issue.

          "fuck your war... and your president."--Snake Plissken

          by binFranklin on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 11:22:36 AM PST

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      •  Perhaps you don't understand... (4.00)

        We've got enough people here in the grassroots to trounce any sort of protest.  

        Personally, in four clicks and two phone calls I can have this information to hundreds, and Ivan as well.

        And, some of these are not small people...they're gruff, they frustrated, and anything BUT decaf.

        Be proud. YOU'RE A LIBERAL.

        by changingamerica on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 09:28:49 AM PST

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      •  Hey, Eugene (4.00)
        The party officials have done a good job so far. But the grassroots - to which msaroff was referring - have basically slept through the whole thing.

        I can only conclude that you and the good folks who rated your comment a 4 either:

        1. Live out in the tules:

        2. Don't know what the hell you are talking about, or

        3. Just run in different circles than I do.

        I'm guessing it is 3. I get around King and Pierce Counties pretty extensively, and all I hear is "what's new on the recount?"

        As for your statement that the voters "haven't done much of anything beyond that," what exactly would you have people do? The process is under way.

        I was in Olympia helping train volunteers to be observers for the recount. The room was so packed we had to open another room and split the training.

        In Seattle, six hundred people showed up to train as observers. This is in addition to the actual paid counters, mind you.

        An unavoidable conflict (my own District's Reorganization meeting) took me out of the recount, otherwise I'd be there on staff supervising volunteer observers.

        The poster downthread who called the state party and didn't get a call back had an atypical experience. People at the state party office have been swamped with volunteers, and chances are they were full up, which is why she wasn't called back.

        IMO, if you think the grass roots Dems are not involved in this recount, you are just running with the wrong crowd.

        "Lash those conservatives and traitors with the pen of gall and wormwood -- let them feel -- no temporising!" -- Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1837

        by Ivan on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 10:41:27 AM PST

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        •  Bravo WA state! n/t (none)
        •  WA grass roots fully caffeinated (4.00)
          I was in Olympia helping train volunteers to be observers for the recount. The room was so packed we had to open another room and split the training.

          That has been my experience throughout the whole election process.  The training for the GOTV in Olympia was packed.  We had tons of volunteers for the GOTV day.  The rallies were all well attended.  The training was packed.  Everyone I talk to is asking how the recount is going, have they decided to count the 561 votes in King county, etc.  Everyone seems to be keeping updated on the situation on an almost realtime basis and we all have day jobs.  

          What is needed is someone to step up and take the lead, which is what the state chair should be doing.  If they want protestors, they could easily get them in Olympia, they just need to do a good job of getting the word out.

          The poster downthread who called the state party and didn't get a call back had an atypical experience. People at the state party office have been swamped with volunteers, and chances are they were full up, which is why she wasn't called back.

          That is what I was hoping had happened.  

    •  Once again (none)
      Washington is The Daddy of our country. :)

      Goodness remains in this world, and quite often it is Blue.

      by cskendrick on Tue Dec 14, 2004 at 12:51:20 PM PST

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      •  John Sweeney our wonderful Congressman (none)
        Also live in Sweeney's district.  Sent him an e-mail inquiring on his budget vote that cut Pell Grant funding.  Since I have a son in college this really affected our family.  Informed him that I would share his vote with other families in his district but surprise, surprise he didn't answer me.
        Was surprised that he voted against the gay marriage ammendant.  Sure his only reason for doing this is the desire to run against Hillary Clinton in 2006.  Which would be great as he would undoubtedly lose and we'd get rid of this bully.  Jerry Solomon, the guy he replaced was even worse.  He ranted and raved on the floor of congress that it was important for his wife to have an assault weapon to protect herself which didn't go over well with the people in the district.  He also got into a verbal altercation with Robert Kennedy, Jr about the right to allow people to have assault weapons.  Rather insensitive considering what happened to his father.  He had to step down because people in this heavily republican district said they won't vote for him for dog catcher.  But only because he voted against allocating money to it.
        •  FIxing America, one state at a time (none)
          Might as well start with Washington.

          Conservatives have made moderate Republicans an endangered species; I say we make them extinct.

          There's no reason for Republicans to hold positions of statewide authority with a Blue-leaning constituency.

          They can muster control of Congress and the White House using nothing but Red country going forward.

          I spent four years cajoling moderate Pubs, and at the end of the day, they joined in the catcalling and the demonization of Americans in order to play to the GOP in-crowd.

          Now they come around, letting us know that they're still our friends, but they've got an image to keep up.

          Eff that. They can go get kicked around by the 'beautiful people' until the latter get tired of it.

          Because we are shut of them, completely.

          Who's your daddy? Washington. :)

          by cskendrick on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 05:29:37 AM PST

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