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  •  from what I know... (9+ / 0-)

    ....morphine drip doesn't don't get you high, it just makes you sleepy all the time, and it totally eliminates pain (aside from the ouch of getting needles, and one thing they do like to do in hospitals, is give lots of needles!).

    Typically a hospitalization for DVT/PE will include a few days of morphine, but if there is surgery it can be longer.  

    However, the risk of medical dependence is low, and the risk of addiction as such (with psychological desire as well as withdrawal symptoms) is practically nil, if the  morphine is properly administered.   It really is "God's gift to Man" when you consider how horrible serious pain can be.  

    •  Of course, there is even a better one (5+ / 0-)

      for some people but the foolish drug warriors refuse to allow thir more highly refined one into hospitals in the US. Synthetic opiates are still allowed.

      •  that would be heroin. (6+ / 0-)

        Diacetyl-morphine if I recall correctly.  

        Agreed, heroin ought to be Schedule II, but the idiot drug warriors want to keep it on Schedule I which is medical & scientific Siberian exile.  

        Same case for psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin, etc.), and entactogens (MDMA, 2CBR, etc.).  

        Schedule I ought to be reserved for temporary use in public health emergencies such as when an abuse epidemic breaks out that is traceable to drug diversion from legitimate uses.  

        Now strictly speaking I don't know if heroin has clinical outcomes that are more useful than those of morphine.  It may work better for certain kinds of chronic pain that are intractable to synthetics.  

        There should be clinical trials, which are nearly impossible under Schedule I.  Though FDA has been a lot more reasonable lately in issuing research permits for psychedelics (psilocybin: there has been some excellent work done recently with this one, I've read the papers. BTW, I have reason to believe that psilocybin in low doses (below the psychedelic threshold) may be useful in treating rage disorders).

        So if they're starting to be reasonable with psilocybin, and the researchers are careful (so far they are), then there's a chance we could see some progress on heroin as well.  

        The thing to keep in mind is that all of these substances are potentially highly useful tools for science & medicine if they are used responsibly.  The FDA should be concerned with facilitating safe scientific and medical applications, and preventing those from getting out of hand or onto the street.  Then if something does get out of hand, it should be the DEA's job to deal with that.  But these two missions are separate, and criminals in the illicit drug trade should not have the effective power to hold scientists and physicians hostage.  

    •  Didn't get hubby high, just ensured he felt no (6+ / 0-)

      pain whatsoever.  His accident kept him hospitalized for three months, but during those early days when he was on the stuff he was certain he'd be back at work within a week or two.  He asked to be taken off of it earlier than they'd planned because he wanted to have a better understanding of what was happening to him and be more in touch with what his body was telling him.

      They only call it Class War when we fight back.

      by lineatus on Wed Oct 28, 2009 at 05:42:38 AM PDT

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    •  Morphine (2+ / 0-)
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      Made me very "happy" the times I was given it in hospital.  Maybe sleepy too, but wonderful euphoria.  I can see how easily someone could become addicted.  It is the only pain reliever I have ever had that actually stopped the pain.  Most of the others I still had pain but just didn't care.

      *the blogger formerly known as shirlstars

      by Shirl In Idaho on Wed Oct 28, 2009 at 08:55:35 AM PDT

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