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  •  That's absurd logic. (0+ / 0-)

    The question isn't whether you ask 10% more for a used honda? You do but the question is whether you can ask an asking price of a million dollar for a 2002 Nissan. You can't. US existing healthcare system and single payer don't lie on the same axis. There is no demand for single payer among the people or in the congress or at The Presidential level. The demand doesn't exist so it was never on the table.

    •  I just watched NOW on PBS (4+ / 0-)

      about Denmark and what they are doing regarding global warming. I am once again amazed as I often am when I turn my eyes to other countries. They are acting reasonably and trying to do what is right for the whole country. Not what is right for a few powerful oil or coal companies.

      I always forget how rational most other countries are in the way they approach policy.

      I am very, very convinced after watching this health care debate unfold this country is doomed. Really doomed. Every last bill that is written is written by special interests to screw the people. And we seem powerless to stop it. Time after time.

      When are we going to face it, our system is broken beyond repair?

      •  Climate change bill will (0+ / 0-)

        be equally flawed so what are our options? It's either you take the incremental progress and live to fight another day or you kill even the incremental progress. I'm going with option a) because that's just the reality at this time. The system is flawed and no one is interested in revolution ( Hell, you cannot get 5000 people to come out and march for 2 hours for HCR) so it's either small steps or status quo.

        •  We could save ourselves (1+ / 0-)
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          a generation of pain and suffering if we came to grips with it and demanded a constitutional convention.

          I will never forget getting off the bus in Washington DC going to protest the Iraq war and thinking I can't believe I am doing this a decade later with a Bush in the White House invading the same country. I never could have predicted in a million years that could come to past but by god it did.

          I used to save newspapers for long periods of time and when I would periodically go through them to throw them out the headlines from years past could have been written that day. We fight the same battles over and over and over and never win. Never.

        •  then pick no change over a pittance of change. (0+ / 0-)

          And let everything stop.  really.  I'm not kidding.
          Enoughs enough.
          Lets stop the BS and just end this system.

          Sure there will be problems, but we need something else.  This isnt working, and its got no hope of working in the future. We all know it.

    •  No demand? (1+ / 0-)
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      Nonsense. Single Payer when explained as a Medicare style Option is wildly popular.

      "It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees" E. Zapata

      by Blutodog on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 07:42:04 AM PDT

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