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  •  the Post has itself to blame for this - (6+ / 0-)

    let me explain.  Two years ago Cooch survived - barely - by 101 votes when he ran for reelection.  The Post did not endorse him, but also decided not to endorse his opponent, who had been elected to the Fairfax School Board.  For whatever reason, the Post editorial board decided that staying neutral in the race was the appropriate thing to do.  Had Cooch lost that race - as he surely would have done had the Post endorsed his opponent (look at the impact an endorsement had in gubernatorial primary) we would not be worrying about him now.

    do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

    by teacherken on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 05:56:11 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, that was a blunder all around. The radical (6+ / 0-)

      goal for the Federal government, small enough to drown in a bathtub" has its echo in politics. Stop these extremist aborning or face some real damage down the road. Janet Oleszek by all accounts ran a dismally poor campaign to the distress of many long time Democrats. Still, as I say all the time, every vote must be strategic.

      There is always a difference. Refusal to vote for even a slightly better candidate because they do not meet your standards is an emotional, short sighted view of how to get better governance. As long as Republicans represent the repugnant (Repugnants is a good term) and narrow minded views they do now even a simple other than "R" is enough difference to get out and vote. The point is governance, not a popularity contest. A party of bad, even anti governance, must be fought long term at every election. That is one of the things upsetting me now in seeing so many of those that were for Obama's change apparently sitting this one out.

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 06:08:05 AM PDT

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      •  Folks are sitting out because they don't know (6+ / 0-)

        That's what is so frustrating! Deeds did not make the case for himself.  Folks are thinking this election is between a moderate GOP'er and a Blue Dog Democrat -- i.e. not a hill bean's difference between the two.  Additionally even those who might be concerned about the GOP slate are now so demoralized looking at the polling on the local news that they think all is lost already. Hell that's the way all the talking heads think.

        The answer isn't to finger point at the folks but rather to crank up those tornado sirens to get everyone to wake up to the catastrophe only they can prevent by getting to the polls.

        •  And a point I keep trying to make is that (6+ / 0-)

          thinking this election is between a moderate GOP'er and a Blue Dog Democrat -- i.e. not a hill bean's difference between the two

          is never the case with the Republican party so malignant.

          Citizenship voting is not a high school popularity, "like" the candidate contest. Those that view elections and their vote that way get the governance that is often so dismal--and often those of us working with a more strategic sense are along for the dismal ride.

          We are like an isolated frontier family dependent on our plot. We may not have a food crop we "like" and it may not be all that strong a crop in the garden but we'd damn well better weed the inedibles or we will suffer. So, taking the attitude a Blue Dog Democrat that even occasionally votes our way and gives leadership power as "not a hill bean's difference" is like sitting around watching the weeds take over your winter food supply.

          The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

          by pelagicray on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 06:38:50 AM PDT

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          •  and Creigh is very much NOT a Blue Dog (8+ / 0-)

            he comes from a conservative part of the state, but has been willing to listen to the needs of more liberal parts.

            And he is willing to raise taxes on a bipartisan basis to improve transportation because without fixing our transportation mess, especially in NoVa and Hampton Roads, the state will (a) begin to lose its reputations as well run and as a good place for business, and (b) begin to see a real decrease in the ability to raise the revenue necessary for all the services the people want and need.

            Bath County doesn't need more roads.  Creigh is willing to see taxes across the state because improving roads benefits the entire state.

            And he is insistent on protecting public transportation.

            This diary is about Steve, but I do not want people to have a wrong perception of Creigh.

            do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

            by teacherken on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 06:50:53 AM PDT

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            •  If some people think they can sit this one out (4+ / 0-)

              because they think Deeds is a Blue Dog and there is "not a hill bean's difference between the two" they had damn well wake up his opponent is not the moderate he pretends and some really bad stuff is riding GOP top ticket coattails.

              The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

              by pelagicray on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 07:08:02 AM PDT

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          •  Voting is a hiring decision... (4+ / 0-)

            ...not a Pledge of Allegiance.   I strongly agree with you, Pelagric, and look forward to a diary from you on this point after the election.  I think this would be a very useful conversation to start here on DK.  

      •  she also had a very poor campaign manager (3+ / 0-)

        the race was, despite the lack of Post endorsement, very winnable.

        And had she been properly prepped for her meeting with the editorial board, she probably would have gotten their endorsement.

        She;s a good person, who has now spent time working in a legislative office in Richmond and getting some training about politics.  Should she run again, I suspect she would be a much better candidate.

        do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

        by teacherken on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 06:27:04 AM PDT

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        •  A three striker now: (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          teacherken, catleigh

          New campaign manager: Madia is 'dream candidate' for CD3 where his "dream candidate" that had some good support got just under 41% of the vote.

          If you Google Murray's name, the most relevant results touch on that Virginia state senate race, in which Murray worked for Democrat Janet Oleszek.  I asked him what what went wrong on that campaign, given the general impression in the blogosphere that it was an eminently winnable campaign. Unfortunately, he couldn't say too much on the record, but did note the damaging effects of a poor review from the Washington Post editorial board and a strong effort from incumbent Ken Cuccinelli, especially when it came to negative advertising against Oleszek.

          Sure, the Cooch that had to bail out to the AG race because he probably was toast in his Senatorial district now--and probably then considering he barely squeaked out by ninety-two votes  (50.02% 18,602 to 18,510 with 73 write ins) with poor Janet's performance. And look at that dismal turnout in that race:

          Voter Turnout:
             37,185 of 116,076 active voters (32.03%)
             37,185 of 119,803 total voters (31.03%)

          These guys thrive on Virginia's low turnout really off year elections where they can whip up a fanatic base.

          The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

          by pelagicray on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 07:03:09 AM PDT

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